TFF teaches us a lot about society.

[M-J-G]

How many murders have we had !
Im alway carefull when i go to shows .
Could be a TFF member around the corner on a revenge attact !,

That's not a statistic I'm familiar with, I'm guessing a thousand a year in the UK.

 

[Agrivator]

It's so sad to see burials where there are few, if any, mourners. As a mark of respect, we should all remember Dave Allen's funeral prayer - ''In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and into the Hole he Goes''.

At least dat's what he tort de Priest said, when he attended his first Roman Catholic burial in Dublin.

 

[Agrivator]

Rees-Mogg firm accused of cashing in on coronavirus crisis

Rees-Mogg firm accused of cashing in on coronavirus crisis. Investors in Somerset Capital Management told they could make ‘super normal returns’

uk.yahoo.com

But none of us has sunk as low as the Guardian. It's peeved, bitter and twisted, journalists can't miss any opportunity to try to bad-mouth Tory politicians. And Labour politicians seem to go along with them. See John McDonnell's comments.

And I see Diane Abbott has left the shadow Cabinet. Apparently she's still not recovered from a bout oF Corbyn-69.

 

[Scribus]

It's so sad to see burials where there are few, if any, mourners. As a mark of respect, we should all remember Dave Allen's funeral prayer - ''In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and into the Hole he Goes''.

At least dat's what he tort de Priest said, when he attended his first Roman Catholic burial in Dublin.

Now therein lies a singular truth and that is the British are far more removed from the cycle of life and death than many other cultures. Maybe its the average two to three weeks between death and burial or perhaps it's the nature of the C of E, but we have seen a terror of death in the UK over the last few weeks that far outstrips that of Ireland.

 

[Scribus]

Rees-Mogg firm accused of cashing in on coronavirus crisis

Rees-Mogg firm accused of cashing in on coronavirus crisis. Investors in Somerset Capital Management told they could make ‘super normal returns’

uk.yahoo.com

But none of us has sunk as low as the Guardian. It's peeved, bitter and twisted, journalists can't miss any opportunity to try to bad-mouth Tory politicians. And Labour politicians seem to go along with them. See John McDonnell's comments.

And I see Diane Abbott has left the shadow Cabinet. Apparently she's still not recovered from a bout oF Corbyn-69.

Covid 19 has screwed up their psuedo green snowflake agenda so they have to take it out on something or somebody.

 

[Scribus]

There are a lot of frightened people out there myself included some are frightened of dying, some of someone close to them dying others like myself are worried about their businesses and the damage to the economy the reaction to the virus is causing.All these thing lead people to react in different ways. What i have found most disturbing are the people who seem to glory in banding about the numbers who may die or the fact that the army may be called out etc . There seems to be a large number of people happy to be in the end times. Or of the belief that they benefit from what is going on. If we can get away from the idea that all news has to bad news then maybe we can get out of this situation a lot quicker. As such my piece of good news is when my daughter had to go into Lincoln A&E on Thursday night after her brother had tried to remove her finger with her hammer there were no people in there and she was seen in ten minutes. In fact they had so few customers that three different doctors were fighting over who should treat her. A year previously when my Dad fell over he and my son waited four hours for treatment. So it's an ill wind etc.

You are absolutely right about those who seem to demand ever tighter control and abandonment of liberty in a bid to stave off the virus. They strike me as very insecure in their demands for the state to bully others on their behalf, it's a most unappealing streak within society and you seem to have a lot more of it over there than we do here, but that's probably because there are more of you and so the extremism becomes more vocal.

On the silver lining front then hopefully folk might come to realise that there is more to life than the latest Iphone, app, gizzmo or whatever and there might be a reappraisal of how society should function rather than continue headlong into a state of digital tyranny as desired by big tech.

 

[Lowland1]

You are absolutely right about those who seem to demand ever tighter control and abandonment of liberty in a bid to stave off the virus. They strike me as very insecure in their demands for the state to bully others on their behalf, it's a most unappealing streak within society and you seem to have a lot more of it over there than we do here, but that's probably because there are more of you and so the extremism becomes more vocal.

On the silver lining front then hopefully folk might come to realise that there is more to life than the latest Iphone, app, gizzmo or whatever and there might be a reappraisal of how society should function rather than continue headlong into a state of digital tyranny as desired by big tech.

I have from the start believed in percentages 1000 dead or 20000 dead sounds horrendous but there are 60 million plus in the UK. This is a farming forum and when we discuss livestock we talk of
mortality rates we sneer at vegans and their dislike of the meat trade etc but when something like this comes along we all become quite nervous. We now live in an age where people can be kept alive possibly longer than they should and i am speaking from personal experience here.Maybe what are seeing in Europe is like swine flu going through a high health pig herd and what we really need is to pick up a bit of immunity. I am sure people will feel this callous bit it's not meant to be offensive but practical.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

If you had let it rip it could have killed upwards of a million people in this country alone , with people being left at home to die in pain

 

[Lowland1]

If you had let it rip it could have killed upwards of a million people in this country alone , with people being left at home to die in pain

That's a theory. Again look at Sweden. And luckily i am not in charge or ever likely to be.

 

[Derrick Hughes]

That's a theory. Again look at Sweden. And luckily i am not in charge or ever likely to be.

Its not realy though us it, 80% of cases are mild , so 20 % of casses are not . If you ran out of hospital beds which you rapidly would, a lot of those would die

 

[Lowland1]

Its not realy though us it, 80% of cases are mild , so 20 % of casses are not . If you ran out of hospital beds which you rapidly would, a lot of those would die

Again you isolate those at risk not all people.if you have a health issue, if by virtue of age or any other factors you isolate yourself. This again is my view and again it's all theoretical.

 

[Tarw Coch]

That's a theory. Again look at Sweden. And luckily i am not in charge or ever likely to be.

Or look at Spain where a care home was abandoned by staff and old folk left to die.
It may well be that many were only alive due to modern medicine but where do you draw the line on life saving operations/medicine?

 

[JP1]

That's a theory. Again look at Sweden. And luckily i am not in charge or ever likely to be.

Sadly I think we may have to wait for how America fares when their health system is overloaded

 

[Tarw Coch]

Again you isolate those at risk not all people.if you have a health issue, if by virtue of age or any other factors you isolate yourself. This again is my view and again it's all theoretical.

But it’s not just the elderly and those with pre existing medical conditions who are dying, apart from anyone else there have been several doctors and nurses who have died allready, no doubt there will be more before this is over. How many would die if you let it rip through the population?

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Facebook is just toxic / narcissistic

Twitter is just virtue signalling rubbish / echo chamber for farmers who line up to provide vegans / packham etc with ”sport”


TFF has its faults but it’s far better than either of the above imo. Social media can be a very destructive thing but imagine life without it right now, proving it’s not all bad it’s helping spread good information and keeping people in touch through some very difficult times

Actually there is incredible learning and sharing available on FB if you look for it. The FB algorithms show you content based on what you view and how long for, what you react to and what your "friends" look at. If your FB experience is negative it is up to you to change it......

 

[holywell farmer]

I find TFF really interesting on all matters agricultural and in general .
When the odd member starts to get amusement by trying to make light hearted entertainment of Covid19 by their comments on TFF , I find that is in very poor taste

Some of the comments on here been horrible recently

 

[JP1]

Actually there is incredible learning and sharing available on FB if you look for it. The FB algorithms show you content based on what you view and how long for, what you react to and what your "friends" look at. If your FB experience is negative it is up to you to change it......

Friends of mine on FB (of which you are one) will see I mainly post cow pictures and things of rural beauty and interest like landscapes. FB can be a positive place and a way of keeping in touch with like minded folks and without it I probably wouldn't have some international friends

 

[roscoe erf]

Some of the comments on here been horrible recently

but that depends on your view we are not all the same or view things the same

 

[holywell farmer]

but that depends on your view we are not all the same or view things the same

I suppose

 

[Lowland1]

I suppose

Do you think what i have posted is horrible.