The BBC priministerial debate

[pgk]

No he did not.

He gave an example of what the UK could do outside of the EU.

YOU stated it required ratification from the EU .. QED.

Read the post, it has been ratified this not something that couldn't be done whilst an eu member.

 

[Still Farming]

So what about the people who live in Northern Ireland who support the Union ?

They have property, family and communities.

Why should a Corbyn who's done very little than sit on his backside for 30+ years ruin other people's lives. It's not for Corbyn to be on one side or another .. it's TOTALLY down the people who live there.

Will the DUP coalition be formed with Labour this time if they narrowly need to get in???

 

[wanton dwarf]

Read the post, it has been ratified this not something that couldn't be done whilst an eu member.

OMG .. so let me make this clear. If the EU did NOT ratify it then it cannot happen.

Quite obviously, when we leave the EU ... the EU step is missed out and the UK does what it likes .. strangely enough because it's a democracy.

 

[pgk]

I'm pointing out your willingness to throw other people's lives around when they live in a democracy.

THEY have a vote on THEIR destinty.

Quite frankly it has got F all to do with Corbyn.

I simply draw your attention to the fact that it is bojo who is throwing the 6 counties to the wolves. You may be unaware that many antecedents of the protestant settlers of Ireland remain in Ireland, when the Irish free state was formed they were not dispossessed despite the obvious logic to do so.

 

[pgk]

Will the DUP coalition be formed with Labour this time if they narrowly need to get in???

I believe the price would be at least £1bn?

 

[wanton dwarf]

I simply draw your attention to the fact that it is bojo who is throwing the 6 counties to the wolves. You may be unaware that many antecedents of the protestant settlers of Ireland remain in Ireland, when the Irish free state was formed they were not dispossessed despite the obvious logic to do so.

I'll draw your attention back to the first point.

It is NOT for Jeremy Corbyn to play with MILLIONS of lives in Northern Ireland.

 

[pgk]

OMG .. so let me make this clear. If the EU did NOT ratify it then it cannot happen.

Quite obviously, when we leave the EU ... the EU step is missed out and the UK does what it likes .. strangely enough because it's a democracy.

Vat law sits with EU at the top this any change out with certain parameters need ratification, that has already occurred for tampons.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Vat law sits with EU at the top this any change out with certain parameters need ratification, that has already occurred for tampons.

Well you've just admitted than Boris Johnson was correct ..

Post leaving the EU the UK can do whatever it wants .. WITHOUT asking permission .. which may or may not get accepted.

QED.

 

[pgk]

I'll draw your attention back to the first point.

It is NOT for Jeremy Corbyn to play with MILLIONS of lives in Northern Ireland.

Not sure how he is to achieve this, did he say there would be a vote on a United Ireland, no! He is entitled to the view that a United Ireland is a good thing, same a bojo might take the opposite view.

 

[pgk]

Well you've just admitted than Boris Johnson was correct ..

Post leaving the EU the UK can do whatever it wants .. WITHOUT asking permission .. which may or may not get accepted.

QED.

You are really quite simple, read my first post!

 

[wanton dwarf]

Not sure how he is to achieve this, did he say there would be a vote on a United Ireland, no! He is entitled to the view that a United Ireland is a good thing, same a bojo might take the opposite view.

IMHO Corbyn has no right to say anything about Northern Ireland. Given the fact he doesn't live there, nor does his family and nor does his community.

 

[wanton dwarf]

You are really quite simple, read my first post!

I have read it .. that's why I'm pointing out its wrong.

You mentioned ratification in the EU .. therefore you have already admitted the EU overrule the UK regardless.

Which is the whole point of Brexit.

 

[wanton dwarf]

Labour want to Nationalise various industries.

They've called this "Investment".

But of course this is purely a financial purchase of an asset.

There will be NO investment at the point of sale. So the £Billions spent is purely dead money going to Rich Companies & Share Holders for net sum zero effect on the economy .. other than burdening the UK tax payer with debt for an idelological reason.

IMHO it would be far better to spend money on the people of the UK training them for the open positions our services need .. such as the NHS, Construction, Engineering etc. Immigration should be zero until the UK has run out of UK young people ready to work.

 

[pgk]

I have read it .. that's why I'm pointing out its wrong.

You mentioned ratification in the EU .. therefore you have already admitted the EU overrule the UK regardless.

Which is the whole point of Brexit.

The question posed was what advantages can UK have as a result of leaving EU. Bojo gave the example of being able to cut vat on tampons. However that is already in hand having been legislated by UK parliament and ratified by eu parliament as a precursor to legislation. As eu parliament has primacy over vat that is the process. I do agree exit eu there is one less step but that is irrelevant to the question posed and lie returned by bojo.

 

[pgk]

Labour want to Nationalise various industries.

They've called this "Investment".

But of course this is purely a financial purchase of an asset.

There will be NO investment at the point of sale. So the £Billions spent is purely dead money going to Rich Companies & Share Holders for net sum zero effect on the economy .. other than burdening the UK tax payer with debt for an idelological reason.

IMHO it would be far better to spend money on the people of the UK training them for the open positions our services need .. such as the NHS, Construction, Engineering etc. Immigration should be zero until the UK has run out of UK young people ready to work.

Clucking bell I almost agree with you?

 

[pgk]

IMHO Corbyn has no right to say anything about Northern Ireland. Given the fact he doesn't live there, nor does his family and nor does his community.

Missed this post, if you do a little research on jc's involvement in the peace process you would take a different view on whether he should have any right to comment. I highlight that it was as a result of numerous outsiders politicians et al that the good Friday agreement came about. Do you think mo mowlam, bill Clinton etc should have no right to say anything on northern Ireland after all their efforts?

 

[Danllan]

Ban export of live animals !
If you are a non farmer you'd think we
encourage cruelty to animals.
The chap will sell the public any vote winning myth
whilst disadvantaging us at the market place.

What has the IRA do do with the export of live animals?

I'd like to see the export of live animals banned and I know others farming round here who would too. It's the export bit that matters.

The IRA is to do with the greater debate.

No need cos those who dont read right wing press know he favours a United Ireland and also that he was one of the prime negotiators with both Republican and loyalists who turned to a political answer to the troubles. Hence his award from the Ghandhi foundation for his involvement in facilitating the good Friday agreement.

Yeeees… a united Ireland, he supports that alright. You'll find any number of clips on the net of him being asked about IRA violence, you'll not find a single one in which he unequivocally condemns the IRA's actions. Care to name the 'Republicans' he negotiated with? Sinn Fein / IRA, and cheerleaders for the murders every one. But, then, he's a lot of form on supporting terrorists hasn't he? A real man of peace him.

The Gandhi Foundation's citation for his award is this : The Trustees of The Gandhi Foundation agreed to offer him our International Peace Award in recognition of his consistent efforts over a 30 year Parliamentary career to uphold the Gandhian values of social justice and non‐violence. Besides being a popular and hard‐working constituency MP he has made time to speak and write extensively in support of human rights at home and world‐wide. .

That emboldened bit doesn't even make sense.

 

[lloyd]

I'd like to see the export of live animals banned and I know others farming round here who would too. It's the export bit that matters.

The IRA is to do with the greater debate.


Yeeees… a united Ireland, he supports that alright. You'll find any number of clips on the net of him being asked about IRA violence, you'll not find a single one in which he unequivocally condemns the IRA's actions. Care to name the 'Republicans' he negotiated with? Sinn Fein / IRA, and cheerleaders for the murders every one. But, then, he's a lot of form on supporting terrorists hasn't he? A real man of peace him.

The Gandhi Foundation's citation for his award is this : The Trustees of The Gandhi Foundation agreed to offer him our International Peace Award in recognition of his consistent efforts over a 30 year Parliamentary career to uphold the Gandhian values of social justice and non‐violence. Besides being a popular and hard‐working constituency MP he has made time to speak and write extensively in support of human rights at home and world‐wide. .

That emboldened bit doesn't even make sense.

So you want to stand on the high moral ground regarding
live exports .What's your view of imports of meat that
have been reared ,produced call it what you like from
Countries of substandard welfare?
I haven't seen anything from the self righteous Boris
regarding this .
TOTAL HYPOCRISY.

 

[pgk]

I'd like to see the export of live animals banned and I know others farming round here who would too. It's the export bit that matters.

The IRA is to do with the greater debate.


Yeeees… a united Ireland, he supports that alright. You'll find any number of clips on the net of him being asked about IRA violence, you'll not find a single one in which he unequivocally condemns the IRA's actions. Care to name the 'Republicans' he negotiated with? Sinn Fein / IRA, and cheerleaders for the murders every one. But, then, he's a lot of form on supporting terrorists hasn't he? A real man of peace him.

The Gandhi Foundation's citation for his award is this : The Trustees of The Gandhi Foundation agreed to offer him our International Peace Award in recognition of his consistent efforts over a 30 year Parliamentary career to uphold the Gandhian values of social justice and non‐violence. Besides being a popular and hard‐working constituency MP he has made time to speak and write extensively in support of human rights at home and world‐wide. .

That emboldened bit doesn't even make sense.

The Republicans he met with are oft reported all of whom, whether they admit or not, cut their teeth within the terrorist organisations. Less publicised in the UK are the many loyalist terrorists he met with with the same aim. You may see a pattern, turn the terrorist to the ballot box, this happened with terrorists from both sides. He was of course not alone in his efforts and enlightened Tory mp's followed a similar path. Whilst Maggie proclaimed she would not negotiate with terrorists, rightly in my view she had entrusted people to do exactly that. This reached a peak which is when mo mowlam asked JC to renew his efforts. How many times have you seen UK press print pictures of JC et al glad handing with loyalist terrorists who turned to the ballot box? Maybe that doesn't suit their tag line!

 

[Highland Mule]

I'd like to see the export of live animals banned and I know others farming round here who would too. It's the export bit that matters.

May I ask why?