Check creosote is acceptable near river we had grant to help fence cattle off stream but weren't aloud to use creosote
The Fencing Picture Thread
- Thread starter Andy26
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- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I think we have to look at the bigger picture of cost/benefit with everything to do with the environment, and I would think that "redoing" the fence every six years would have a higher environmental impact than creosote, so next question, can you be in an environmental scheme where there are utility poles near water courses? If there are, will the utility companies replace them? Or re route them?
We don’t use “Turner posts” we just use strainers
ive found 'new' creo ones 'weep' creosote for ages , would it be better in that respect using ex. telegraph or electric poles
as they are always well 'dry' when we get them...must admit to recently using secondhand concrete fence posts dug in with a mini and narrow bucket with a heel stone in the bottom /rear and another up on the front/ strain side to take the load. they'll last awhile.
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- North Wales
Creosote is classed as UC4 it's just a different chemical to tanashite. What spec that refuses the use of creosote
76masseyman
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- Lincolncestershire
Talking of creosote, has anyone had any lately in 20 / 25 litre drums with an amount of thick sludge in the bottom of the drums ?
Y Fan Wen
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- N W Snowdonia
After seeing all those high standard fences I thought I would show you one of my problems and my way round it. You can see about half of a fence which connects 2 cliffs and turns through a right angle. The right hand 'strainer' is driven into a crack in the rock and an extension piece put on top to get the height. The left hand one is in enough ground to be self supporting. A length of galvanised half inch pipe connects the two and the intermediate posts are fastened to it. The section passing by my left shoulder has enough soil to have conventional posts. I've been wondering about investing in a core drill for places like this but it means getting a genny as well I think.
The customer asked if we could repair the existing fence. All trees fallen on it and been up 30yrs so pretty buggered. Persuaded him be quicker to replace but he wanted it in the same place. No problem I though, few hours on the chain saw and I get the logs. Spent 8 hrs on it and still not finished, fair bit of brash comes off them trees but looking a bit tidier.
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- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
In the EFS Scheme (NI) there were different levels to the scheme, the spec only refers to posts with a minimum 15 year guarantee, a fencing contractor colleague who was doing efs scheme work in areas classed as more environmentally sensitive said he had the use of creosoted strainers queried by a ministry official. Though we used creosoted strainers and no queries were raised etc.Creosote is classed as UC4 it's just a different chemical to tanashite. What spec that refuses the use of creosote
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- North Wales
If all it says is minimum 15 year then the official has no say on whether you can use creo or not as it will last the 15 years and it doesn't say you can use it. Different countries but a fast amount of scheme work in England and Wales is done with creo.
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- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Indeed, i suspect it was done to the official trying to feel powerful etc.
Tubbylew
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- Herefordshire
I've a question for the fencers, i'm looking at upping my game one step at a time, and getting the rammer kitted out with an auger, the rockspike simply won't cut the mustard for most of my work and its fecking frustrating leaving posts high or (forgive me) lopping the tops off, so what size drives/augers do others run? looking at digga pdx3 and rc4 6 inch auger or augertourqe x2500 am I on the right track?
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- North Wales
Sorry I'm not up on all the model numbers . You want a high torque figure circa 4000nm and slow speed for drilling hard ground. You can change the gear sets to give higher torque but it comes at a price.
The RC4 is a decent all round auger flight but it depends what your grounds like. Different augers work better in different ground and there isn't one that suits all ground.
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- Acton Scott, South Shropshire
weve got several council bodies and conservation bodies we fence for that wont accept creosote treated materialsCreosote is classed as UC4 it's just a different chemical to tanashite. What spec that refuses the use of creosote
Tubbylew
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- Herefordshire
Thanks that gives me a torque to work from, just trying to get the balance weightwise, and i've a feeling it would be a frustrating nightmare if I get it wrong, ground is clay on top of reasonably hard sandstone at around 2-3ft down sometimes less, which can really feck you about particullarly when gate hanging.
JohnGalway
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- Location
- Connemara, Ireland
Shore fence down, bit of a rush job between other jobs. It's not going to be pretty but it'll bloody hold sheep when it's done. Weight of weed is an issue here, explains so many rebar posts. As time goes on I'll replace the wood posts with something steel and substantial. 14mm sds bit for 12mm rebar, until I broke the bit. Have plastic coated wire to tie the sheep net to the rebar when I'm ready.
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- Huntingdon
having just come back from a break in Scotland can i ask why the majority of stock fencing that i saw in the north and scotland uses the square (3x3) posts but down here everyone uses the round stakes?
im guessing they are larch ?
im guessing they are larch ?
Impressive, and that just shows how the places where we farm vary greatly / are so diverse.
JohnGalway
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- Connemara, Ireland
Be interesting to see how long it lasts. I reckon the wood posts have been there since 2007. At least next time when the wire rots that's pretty much all that'll need replacing.