The Fencing Picture Thread

[tepapa]

Hi All,

Know this is a picture thread but thought it might be the best place to ask for some high tensile fencing advice. Finally managed to convince my parents that high tensile wire is the way to go, instead of joining 3/4 rylock nets together for each pull and dispelling the myth that its more expensive. We've already had a go on a small 70m stretch with some cheap netting and barb as a trial and happy enough. We've decided if its worth doing its worth doing well and so have opted for all tornado wire and are going to buy a full set of strainrite clamps, strainers and chains as from the reviews they seem to be good quality and will last. Based on our trial we're going to go for 8/80/22 netting instead of the 15 we'd normally use and are going to try 100m rolls and 250m as well as the standard ht and torus knot (quite interested to see what difference it makes!). From our first trial we've learned a few things, we did use knots and not hard stapling as suggested. My dads rather set on using crimps to join the nets + barb and using gut pulls where possible. Plan is plain line wire, net + 2 barb. My remaining questions are:

- knots for barbed wire, do you join rolls with figure 8s, termination knots at ends and others the same as plain wire? (If not using crimps)
- when should you use certain knots? - mainly tex brown vs speed knots in a gut strain (if not using crimps or for plain?) - i understand figure 8 has too much take up when tensioning wires.
- how do you strain over small ridges? - i know for dips the line wire can help as well as pulling the net down and using post tie backs or something to stop them pulling out.
- What are the main benefits of working with torus wire over the standard ht? - Is it just easier to remove verticals?


Thanks in advance.

Join 2mm ht barb with either fig 8 or 4mm crimps and 5 in 1.
A text brown is a variant of a fig 8. That you can tie under tension so best used to join a gut pull if you don't crimp.
Put your posts in on the rise and dip points so so when tensioning up you can staple to the post to hold it in position.
Torus goes up better as the rigid wire helps stand the nett up. That's where the benefits end imo. I don't think it's rugged enough to stand up to a lot of stock pressure and the knots move on the wire.

The biggest challenge with HT is keeping the netting tight so you need to put a lot more effort into keeping your strainers Right. Don't skimp on sizes or lengths.

 

[hutchy143211]

Thanks @tepapa and @Goggles for the advice, its much appreciated! We're lucky in that sense on heavy clay ground we get good resistance with the posts but still planning on using 8", 8' posts with proper leaners. Most of our up and down is rigs and furrows which can be quite undulating hence why thinking of having a HT bottom strand to give a bit more play (Currently don't with mild but think it'll make a better job). One other question I have which is linked to this is thinking of using the HT bottom wire as the line, is there a way to keep this straight if going over a rise where it may catch, before putting posts at the top of ridges? Only way I could think was to put it on and tie it all off half way up the post then when done using it as a line, put the strainers back on to take the strain and move the ends down?

 

[tepapa]

Thanks @tepapa and @Goggles for the advice, its much appreciated! We're lucky in that sense on heavy clay ground we get good resistance with the posts but still planning on using 8", 8' posts with proper leaners. Most of our up and down is rigs and furrows which can be quite undulating hence why thinking of having a HT bottom strand to give a bit more play (Currently don't with mild but think it'll make a better job). One other question I have which is linked to this is thinking of using the HT bottom wire as the line, is there a way to keep this straight if going over a rise where it may catch, before putting posts at the top of ridges? Only way I could think was to put it on and tie it all off half way up the post then when done using it as a line, put the strainers back on to take the strain and move the ends down?

Use posts or metal rods as range poles, line them up and eye down the line to see if it's straight from strainer to strainer. If it's just undulating Do as you say and tie off up the strainer to go over the ridges.

 

[Macsky]

Getting into a 3600m boundary job between the farm and neighbouring forestry. Dirty ditch to cross, cut up an old fish farm gangway that has been lying on the shore for years, load tested to 4t with the loaded chapper going over

Corner post driven down to blue rock, wouldn’t stay in its hole so a bit of drilling and an eye bolt off a power line stay wire did the trick:

 

[Estate fencing.]

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I’m no fencing contractor but I’m sure there meant to be in the ground further than 9 inches!

 

[JohnGalway]

Getting into a 3600m boundary job between the farm and neighbouring forestry. Dirty ditch to cross, cut up an old fish farm gangway that has been lying on the shore for years, load tested to 4t with the loaded chapper going over
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Corner post driven down to blue rock, wouldn’t stay in its hole so a bit of drilling and an eye bolt off a power line stay wire did the trick:
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Probably a stupid question, but why use chain to the eye instead of wire all the way?

 

[CornishRanger]

Probably a stupid question, but why use chain to the eye instead of wire all the way?

I'm guessing that chain is less likely to be damaged, and won't rust out as quickly in contact with the ground

 

[Macsky]

Probably a stupid question, but why use chain to the eye instead of wire all the way?

Acidic ground, don't want to worry about wire rotting, quite corrosive mix of acid and oxygen at ground level.

 

[J428TGS]

which cordless stapler do you lads think is good dewalt, KRM, Think id like a dearwalt as aa thing else I have is that, how many have are using 1

 

[tepapa]

m View attachment 926066I’m no fencing contractor but I’m sure there meant to be in the ground further than 9 inches!

Did it blow over in the wind ?

 

[CornishRanger]

which cordless stapler do you lads think is good dewalt, KRM, Think id like a dearwalt as aa thing else I have is that, how many have are using 1

Seems to be an often asked question on Facebook, opinion is usually divided! I've only used the strainrite st400i gas one, beats hammering them, especially doing 13 staples a post on horse netting! I like the look of the dewalt too, most of my gear is yellow as well, and I like the fact it doesn't need gas

 

[J428TGS]

Seems to be an often asked question on Facebook, opinion is usually divided! I've only used the strainrite st400i gas one, beats hammering them, especially doing 13 staples a post on horse netting! I like the look of the dewalt too, most of my gear is yellow as well, and I like the fact it doesn't need gas

yeah Gas can be a turd in the cold with the nail gun, even just standard stock fence youd be 1/4 of the time

 

[Estate fencing.]

Did it blow over in the wind ?

Sadly yes it seems to have done. It was only done 3 weeks ago at great expense for the land owner. We are redoing it, the bad bit is they the hit all the post in 9 inches and cut the tops off so cannot even reuse the posts!

 

[CornishRanger]

Sadly yes it seems to have done. It was only done 3 weeks ago at great expense for the land owner. We are redoing it, the bad bit is they the hit all the post in 9 inches and cut the tops off so cannot even reuse the posts!

I should expect the landowner will be trying to recovered that great expense! Cowboy job, . Were those strands of barb going off that post to make the fence??

 

[Estate fencing.]

I should expect the landowner will be trying to recovered that great expense! Cowboy job, . Were those strands of barb going off that post to make the fence??

Real cowboy job I would think because they are mega rich Americans (not millions but billions) they though they could be ripped off. They made a very mistake as they people do not like being taken for idiots! I’m grazing the ground so are putting it right for them.

 

[CornishRanger]

People don't get, or stay, rich by being ripped off! That's just shocking work

 

[Bullring]

which cordless stapler do you lads think is good dewalt, KRM, Think id like a dearwalt as aa thing else I have is that, how many have are using 1

I bought the dewalt one a few months ago, can’t fault it, puts them in quicker than a hammer, I stapled up my first 250m of stockfence and barb in 20 mins.

 

[Willie adie]

The torus net pulls round the back of Turners better than hinge joint, I have to say don't find much difference in pulling,
But beware if cutting off the knots where they originally were if you twist the wire on that spot there is a tenancy for the wire to snap, so avoid putting twists in that spots

 

[jack6480]

What knot is best to use when tying stock net together in between two straining boards?
Thanks

 

[tepapa]

What knot is best to use when tying stock net together in between two straining boards?
Thanks

Tex brown. Which is just a version of a figure 8 tied under tension.