The great global warming scam, worth a listen I think.

[banjo]

Lowest recorded cosmic ray flux from the sun ever, nearest was the 1930s!

 

[banjo]

Yes indeed.
I see that 2017 is expected to be the third or second warmest year ever globally...the three warmest I believe are 2016 and 2015 and 2017....could all be weather though but 16 of the 17 warmest years have occurred since 2000.

Your incorrect , 1930s was the hottest

 

[Campani]

Your incorrect , 1930s was the hottest

A whole decade was the hottest year recorded? Something wrong there..

 

[banjo]

Ok if there is evidence each way and it's not decided, what does your side think that caused the 100,000 years old iceshelf break up, in a non globle warming world, or are they now on 100,000 year solar cycles now.......as an explanation, show me one convincing argument for that very old ice shelf to break up, you will convert me......to your side. And scientific evidence a good paper or article so we can all read would be great.
I would assume that in a very disputed globle warming scam that the massive evidence of a ice shelf melting has a very un globle warming explanation......if not it doesn't look as balanced and undecided as you think.

I will have a look, all I know is every year the arctic has a spring summer winter of its own
. The ice breakup happens every year in a period called the spring breakup and the news likes to put it up and say the Arctic is melting uncontrollably when it isn't. I have put data up before that shows that the Greenland ice is in fact growing and getting thicker, not melting.
It was a bit hotter a couple of months back but that was due to activity on the sun and thus in turn increased e ninio ( thus the storms and cloud cover held in the heat ) but the Suns activity has slowed down one hell of a lot as the list Ive shared just before thus shows.
Ireland's own weather reports say it's going to be a hard winter for them.
Snowing like hell in Canada and certain parts of the states now.

 

[banjo]

A whole decade was the hottest year recorded? Something wrong there..

No the 1930s had the highest recorded temp ever when the dust bowls were turning Americas land into desert, it's all recorded.

 

[Bogweevil]

No the 1930s had the highest recorded temp ever when the dust bowls were turning Americas land into desert, it's all recorded.

Fake News:

1934 hottest year in USA - USA is quite a small part of planet earth (2%), but globally 1934 was not a hot year.

 

[linga]

Your incorrect , 1930s was the hottest

Not globally I am led to understand

 

[Dave645]

Lowest recorded cosmic ray flux from the sun ever, nearest was the 1930s!

How was that data collected from the 1800's

 

[Campani]

No the 1930s had the highest recorded temp ever when the dust bowls were turning Americas land into desert, it's all recorded.

I think you missed my point. Still out of interest do you have a link?

 

[Gong Farmer]

Sorry if this has been pointed out but NASA recently announced (admitted?) that ice shelves breaking up in Antarctica were due to massive volcanoes under the ice. Far more believable than 'global warming' (sic).

 

[dstudent]

Sorry if this has been pointed out but NASA recently announced (admitted?) that ice shelves breaking up in Antarctica were due to massive volcanoes under the ice. Far more believable than 'global warming' (sic).

I ll research that as it sounds interesting, however my understanding of current research and latest findings in regards to what is happening now do not say anything of the sort.
Vulcanos in Antarctica are nothing new, recent studies 'discovered' more under the ice vulcanos, infact quite a significant number, near a 100 I think from the 40ish we already new.
Now the implication here is what will happen if they erupt and how the thinning and dessapering ice due to global warming , might infact trigger the eruptions, due to the release of pressure applied by the icesheet.

Ps
I think I figured out what you on about, is this about 'mantle plume' studies in West Antarctica?
Thermal Subglacial anomalies are again nothing new and specific areas in West Antarctica have been studied for years as part of the various crostal processes and definetly need to be studied more. But I could not find any research about NASA having to admit to anything and 'that ice shelves breaking up in Antarctica were due to massive volcanoes under the ice'.

 

[banjo]

Same old crap

 

[banjo]

the Arctic data from the last decade sais it's barely changed and in fact it's increasing now.
All the doom mongers predictions were wrong and the trouble these days is we can go back and see it was wrong and show everyone, warmists don't like hearing they were completely wrong !

 

[Bogweevil]

the Arctic data from the last decade sais it's barely changed and in fact it's increasing now.
All the doom mongers predictions were wrong and the trouble these days is we can go back and see it was wrong and show everyone, warmists don't like hearing they were completely wrong !

Fake news - this video sample size is too short to show the decrease in ice: https://sites.google.com/site/arctischepinguin/home/piomas

 

[banjo]

This is the current state of sea level, it's actualy going down off the Goddard sat data. Notice it says it's going up in the top right hand corner but it isn't, it's falling as can be seen in this graph.
They even lie right to your face, you just need to find the truth and it jumps out at you. The Greenland ice is growing thus sea level falling, it's that simple.

 

[Bogweevil]

View attachment 602452 This is the current state of sea level, it's actualy going down off the Goddard sat data. Notice it says it's going up in the top right hand corner but it isn't, it's falling as can be seen in this graph.
They even lie right to your face, you just need to find the truth and it jumps out at you. The Greenland ice is growing thus sea level falling, it's that simple.

Fake News - look at the full set of data - a two year pause is insignificant in long term trend:

 

[Dave645]

View attachment 602452 This is the current state of sea level, it's actualy going down off the Goddard sat data. Notice it says it's going up in the top right hand corner but it isn't, it's falling as can be seen in this graph.
They even lie right to your face, you just need to find the truth and it jumps out at you. The Greenland ice is growing thus sea level falling, it's that simple.

Its called cherry picking data, hence they pick the most strategic start point for the graph to show the trend in the most misleading way possible.
Slow clap for you yet again, if it lasts 5 years in a downward trend then you start to make a case. It's not like the full graph hasn't similar points in it, but the long term trend is still up.

 

[linga]

View attachment 602452 This is the current state of sea level, it's actualy going down off the Goddard sat data. Notice it says it's going up in the top right hand corner but it isn't, it's falling as can be seen in this graph.
They even lie right to your face, you just need to find the truth and it jumps out at you. The Greenland ice is growing thus sea level falling, it's that simple.

Yep, I can see that Greenland ice is growing

 

[banjo]

Data data data the man with it all!

 

[banjo]

Fake News - look at the full set of data - a two year pause is insignificant in long term trend:

So the end of your graph is the same as mine and shows it slowing down and is getting colder, thanks for agreeing with me cos the data shows it's not melting for the last few years doesn't it