The Queens, reps and the patter.

[ajd132]

Would that not rather depend on which base it referred to?

Point taken

 

[Roger Perry]

This thread has got lost in the weeds of late.............time to ramp it up..!

 

[Derrick Hughes]

No, but surely the butler would welcome you until they arrived?

Last house I went to the dog wanted me for dinner. Along with 6 of his mates

 

[Rowland]

Saying 'touch base' is not bad manners

Might not be rude but it’s fing annoying

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Might not be rude but it’s fing annoying

It's not as rude as forgetting someones first name . Is Rowland your first ?

 

[Highland Mule]

Might not be rude but it’s fing annoying

How can the use of a standard business phrase, in the common vocabulary of most of the English speaking world and featured in the Cambridge dictionary be considered annoying? Now, if you'd said 'fing' (which I take for you to mean 'effing' or perhaps 'f***ing') was annoying and inappropriate, then I would agree with you as it is indeed a swear word.

Or are yourself and the other objectors such 'snowflakes' as to be genuinely offended by someone trying to inject a bit of professionalism into dealing with the archaic country bumpkins you're coming across as?

 

[MissSteak]

A lot of intolerance and self importance on this thread.

If someone is being rude of abusive then fair enough, but if they are being polite and you understand what they are saying then i don't see the problem. To criticise someone for using words, which are legitimate words just you don't like them is daft.

Good service and decent manners are important, if you have to go into the minutia to criticise someone it is likely that they are not the one with the problem.

Also odd that our own "mistakes" or misspeaks/types are ok, but it is not ok for others.

I fully agree.

 

[MissSteak]

I'm probably of the age that are being lambasted on here but personally as long as people are polite, friendly and honest that's all that matters. If someone can get this wound up about 'management speak' and things like 'touch base' then Christ they must be an awkward sod to do business with.
And I probably use 'management speak' like that but I've never been told to or has a lesson on that way of talking, language evolves and my generation speak like that, altering ones complete way of talking for an awkward bugger is hardly worth the effort I wouldn't have thought.

I totally agree[emoji106]

 

[MissSteak]

How can the use of a standard business phrase, in the common vocabulary of most of the English speaking world and featured in the Cambridge dictionary be considered annoying? Now, if you'd said 'fing' (which I take for you to mean 'effing' or perhaps 'f***ing') was annoying and inappropriate, then I would agree with you as it is indeed a swear word.

Or are yourself and the other objectors such 'snowflakes' as to be genuinely offended by someone trying to inject a bit of professionalism into dealing with the archaic country bumpkins you're coming across as?

Spot on Highland Mule.

 

[ajd132]

Might not be rude but it’s fing annoying

Yeh fu*king out of order saying 'touch base'.
Hypocrisy at its finest

 

[MissSteak]

If they are trying to flog me their wares they are to speak to me in the manner I expect and as a customer demands. Why shouldn’t I expect that? I’ll take my business else where if these people can’t do as asked. After all there is always someone else willing to sell the same things and take my money instead. I wouldn’t go to any of my customers talking to them in slang using profanities and referring to them as mate, old chap or boyo. Some of my older and very much old fashioned customers wouldn’t entertain me if I used the management talk and styles of wooing and schmoozing as said in my post. It’s about professionalism decency and customer respect. They show me that and I will show them the same in return.

Maybe you need to look at yourself? Tolerating any old rubbish and being spoken to in any way they deem fit. I was brought up to speak to others the way I expect to be spoken to. To treat others as I wish to be treat. It’s not narcssistic it’s called being brought up and being taught decency, manners, self respect and respect for others. Something somewhat lacking nowadays with most parents neglecting to teach their off spring the value of these things that will set them up well for later in life.

Trust me pal, I don't tolerate people talking to me in a coarse, degrading manner but words are just words.

I come from a fairly plain background and now work in a corporate setting. Previously having worked in a livestock market with customers from a broad cross section of society. I've had customers who aren't able to write, and had limited dialogue but they're no less of a person than I am.

We're all Jock Tamsons bairns, language snobbery isn't something to belittle anyone for.

Take the important issues to task, change the real f**kwittery in life.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

One way to lighten up about it is to play Buzzword Bingo. Just don’t shout too loudly when you’ve got a full house in an important meeting or conference.

 

[Rowland]

Use 1

It's not as rude as forgetting someones first name . Is Rowland your first ?

im not bothered which name I’m called as long as it’s not mate

 

[Derrick Hughes]

Use 1

im not bothered which name I’m called as long as it’s not mate

I would sooner mate than pal

 

[d williams]

Yes but manners are just as applicable to someone selling a bag of nuts, as to someone measuring you for a new set of tweeds.

Grandfather always said
Manners makeath a man

 

[Netherfield]

and Make-up maketh woman.

 

[Rowland]

I would sooner mate than pal

Neither unless they know me quite well!
I HAVE A NAME NOT A NUMBER

 

[stewart]

Absolutely serious, it’s all about standards.
My late mother took great exception to representatives who might be at the kitchen table doing business with my father who did not stand up to acknowledge mother if she entered the room. A gentleman should always stand to acknowledge and meet a lady.

Standing up to acknowledge someone entering a room, or shaking hands with someone you first meet is how people should act, wearing a tie is completely different. Anyone who forms an opinion on someone purely on the basis of what they are wearing, seriously needs to take a good look at themselves.

 

[An Gof]

Standing up to acknowledge someone entering a room, or shaking hands with someone you first meet is how people should act, wearing a tie is completely different. Anyone who forms an opinion on someone purely on the basis of what they are wearing, seriously needs to take a good look at themselves.

I look fine thanks
What people wear sets the tone. Many state schools abandoned traditional uniform favouring more relaxed clothing such as sweat shirts. This had ramifications. It is interesting that many of these schools are now reverting to a more traditional uniform. It makes a difference.

 

[sahara]

In my twenties I worked as a company demonstrator, and travelled across Europe, mostly using a truck, I was often going to dealerships for the first time. If I arrived at a dealership for the first time wearing a polo shirt, albeit a corporate one I was often treated as no more than a delivery driver. However if I was wearing a shirt and quite often a tie then the treatment was completely different. This was the same all across Europe. So I think that An Gof is right what people wear, particularly those in a selling or advisory role does count.