The squeeze on milk and meat continues...

Ukjay

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Eh not quite , you will have to explain that as well lol

No TV, Newspapers, away from people etc

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Ukjay

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I have miles between me and neighbours , I get on well with them all, miles probably help.

Yeh, I get on with my neighbours too (litterally over the fence here) - but its the wanting to know everything you are doing. One even asked what I was doing with the big red thing on the tractor.. they live up the hill about 1/3 mile over the fields..

I do miss my old place for that reason...
 

Cowabunga

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Yeh, I get on with my neighbours too (litterally over the fence here) - but its the wanting to know everything you are doing. One even asked what I was doing with the big red thing on the tractor.. they live up the hill about 1/3 mile over the fields..

I do miss my old place for that reason...

You have a big red thing? On your tractor? :eek:
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales


You can't smell the cows either in town or in the countryside very often.....I wonder who is really to blame?
I saw that and thought "bollóx!" I wonder how bad it was when vehicles had no pollution controls and there was lead and sulphur being only partially regulated into engines through carburettors?

The logical answer here is not to restrict traffic but to move the school to somewhere more suitable if it is that bad.
 

Humble Village Farmer

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So do you mean we have to carry on polluting?
I saw that and thought "bollóx!" I wonder how bad it was when vehicles had no pollution controls and there was lead and sulphur being only partially regulated into engines through carburettors?

The logical answer here is not to restrict traffic but to move the school to somewhere more suitable if it is that bad.
So do you mean we have to carry on polluting?
 

Cowabunga

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Ceredigion,Wales
So do you mean we have to carry on polluting?

So do you mean we have to carry on polluting?
Motor vehicle pollution is reducing annually and is now drastically less than it was during the latter half of the 20thC. Not only has sulphur and lead been eliminated but cats, SCR, DPF's and the stringent regulations have cut other pollutants to less than 1/60th per vehicle. Add that to the greatly improved fuel economy, the replacement of old vehicles with newer and now the progression to more electric vehicles and the issue has and is going away rather quickly. Add on the elimination of coal burning in built up areas and now nationally plus the restrictions on wood burning coming it and the greatest untapped potential to reduce urban pollution will be industrial and domestic oil boilers. Every other angle of gross air pollution seems to have been or is in the process of being tackled.
Tyre and brake dust will be next on the agenda even though brake pads are now asbestos free.
 
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delilah

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I saw that and thought "bollóx!" I wonder how bad it was when vehicles had no pollution controls and there was lead and sulphur being only partially regulated into engines through carburettors?

The logical answer here is not to restrict traffic but to move the school to somewhere more suitable if it is that bad.

Only someone lucky enough to live in the countryside could write that. Embarrassing.
 

Cowabunga

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Only someone lucky enough to live in the countryside could write that. Embarrassing.
Rubbish. There's been virtually no improvement here apart from the elimination of sulphur that caused acid rain and erosion and discolouration of sandstone buildings.
The drastic improvement is almost entirely seen in built-up urban areas. I've said it before about my mother's time working in London during London Smog which is now extinct. Plus my visits there during the 1960's and 70's where just walking around would result in skin polluted to the extent that one could almost have been spreading slag or working down a coal mine. The filth that could be wiped off one's face probably can't be imagined by an eco-warrior such as yourself today who has no reference to how much things are better today.
 

Y Fan Wen

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Rubbish. There's been virtually no improvement here apart from the elimination of sulphur that caused acid rain and erosion and discolouration of sandstone buildings.
The drastic improvement is almost entirely seen in built-up urban areas. I've said it before about my mother's time working in London during London Smog which is now extinct. Plus my visits there during the 1960's and 70's where just walking around would result in skin polluted to the extent that one could almost have been spreading slag or working down a coal mine. The filth that could be wiped off one's face probably can't be imagined by an eco-warrior such as yourself today who has no reference to how much things are better today.
I remember my visits in the 60s. Every evening I had to clean my nails 'cos they looked as though I had been working in the allotment all day. Except it was 'blacker' than soil.
 

delilah

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Rubbish. There's been virtually no improvement here apart from the elimination of sulphur that caused acid rain and erosion and discolouration of sandstone buildings.
The drastic improvement is almost entirely seen in built-up urban areas. I've said it before about my mother's time working in London during London Smog which is now extinct. Plus my visits there during the 1960's and 70's where just walking around would result in skin polluted to the extent that one could almost have been spreading slag or working down a coal mine. The filth that could be wiped off one's face probably can't be imagined by an eco-warrior such as yourself today who has no reference to how much things are better today.

The news story says that kids health is being affected by vehicle pollution, to which you replied "Bollox".
As someone said on here re cows and the environment, spend a night in your garage with a cow, then spend a night in your garage with your car running, then come back and tell us which is bad for human health.
You think it is bollox that you can smell and taste the pollution outside a school in Manchester ? I can smell and taste it outside our village primary school. Of course it is bad for human health, most of all kids in buggies.
 

Bald Rick

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f**k me sdeways and call me Maureen....

Even Dev Alahan of Dev’s cornershop in Coronation Street was banging on about oat milk and the other “milk” alternatives when someone asked for full fat.

Anyone would think real milk was a minority product inside of penetrating 96% or more of U.K. households
 

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