The wrong oil

[4440]

Ringing around for an oil for a power shift gearbox. Rang the normal supplier and told them what tractor I had and I would need an oil for that gearbox type.
They rang back and said they had the oil I needed and supplie it.
Now having used 40 or so litres from the barrel I find out its not the right oil for the gear box.
I have talk to the oil manufacturer and they have said its the wrong oil and made no more comment once I have told them I have been using it.
Talked to the supplier and they have said it is the right oil. Once I have point out that its not they have gone very quiet.
Now I have 160 litre of oil that is not suitable for any thing I have here.
Also I how do I stand up on any future gearbox fails from using the wrong oil.
I would think any thing will be difficult to prove.

 

[dowcow]

Unless your gearbox has some very fancy metals, friction surfaces or seals in it that no-one elses gearbox has, a decent oil isn't likely to cause much harm in the short term.

This is why you have a manual for the tractor.

Even dealers get it wrong, even with serial numbers. I found just as I was about to replace my front axle oil a paragraph in the manual that said to use a slightly different rated gearbox oil if fitted with a Carraro axle than the normal gearbox oil if fitted with a Dana axle (iirc). Dealer had given me the more common gearbox oil. Yet they insist on serial numbers..... so what's the point, eh?

What oil do you have?

 

[DrWazzock]

I accidentally replaced my car engine oil with hydraulic 10. Didn’t seem to do it any harm.

 

[harrow]

Gearbox can be very specific, don't use the wrong oil.

 

[Farmer Roy]

Depends on “how” wrong it is ?

slightly out of spec or completely different ?

 

[Nearly]

Whatever you do, don't tell the ...... never mind.
If machine is under warranty then tell dealer you made a mistake and did use the correct oil after all.
Buy correct oil from different dealer and change it.

 

[startinghandle]

I accidentally replaced my car engine oil with hydraulic 10. Didn’t seem to do it any harm.

How long did you use car with wrong oil

 

[startinghandle]

Ringing around for an oil for a power shift gearbox. Rang the normal supplier and told them what tractor I had and I would need an oil for that gearbox type.
They rang back and said they had the oil I needed and supplie it.
Now having used 40 or so litres from the barrel I find out its not the right oil for the gear box.
I have talk to the oil manufacturer and they have said its the wrong oil and made no more comment once I have told them I have been using it.
Talked to the supplier and they have said it is the right oil. Once I have point out that its not they have gone very quiet.
Now I have 160 litre of oil that is not suitable for any thing I have here.
Also I how do I stand up on any future gearbox fails from using the wrong oil.
I would think any thing will be difficult to prove.

Did you get oil from tractor place or lubricant specialist?
Have you paid for it

 

[Cowabunga]

Basic information required to answer.

What tractor is it?

What oil have you got?

If it is a powershift or synchromesh gearbox and the oil is a super universal or UTTO, it is pretty hard to get it wrong. How wrong do you think it is? Is it an engine-only oil?

 

[4440]

The tractor is a Fastrac with the P Tronic gearbox
I asked the supplier for an oil that was suitable for that gearbox. The supplier is very familiar with oil. It's not the main part of their business, but a big part of it.

I was given Comma Transflow ML10w-30
JCB specify.,JCB 4004/0300
The tractors not new, just short of 8000 hours.

 

[ACEngineering]

The tractor is a Fastrac with the P Tronic gearbox
I asked the supplier for an oil that was suitable for that gearbox. The supplier is very familiar with oil. It's not the main part of their business, but a big part of it.

I was given Comma Transflow ML10w-30
JCB specify.,JCB 4004/0300
The tractors not new, just short of 8000 hours.

 

[ACEngineering]

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There not a million miles apart on spec IMO so i dont see a problem really?

 

[Cowabunga]

The Comma Transflow ML 10W/30 is a direct replacement or alternative to the JCB oil shown above and if that is the recommended oil for your tractor then you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Whoever told you it was unsuitable is mistaken or telling porkies.

 

[4440]

Copy of the conversation from someone that you would think would know.

 

[4440]

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There not a million miles apart on spec IMO so i dont see a problem really?

Just going by what Comma said to me, I thought they would know. 16k for a new box and 35 hours labour. I like things to have the best chance.

 

[4440]

The Comma Transflow ML 10W/30 is a direct replacement or alternative to the JCB oil shown above and if that is the recommended oil for your tractor then you have absolutely nothing to worry about. Whoever told you it was unsuitable is mistaken or telling porkies.

Comma dont recommend Transflow as a replacement.

 

[4440]

Did you get oil from tractor place or lubricant specialist?
Have you paid for it

Paid for it last year, they do supply oil to the trade

 

[dowcow]

The only reason most Super Universals lack certain manufacturers codes is because they haven't paid the manufacturer to certify it. When every manufacturer invents their own codes to sell their own oils it just makes extra confusion for everyone.

 

[snarling bee]

There are several common specs in the oils you show eg JD J20C and API GL4. I'm sure it will be fine, those gearboxes were fairly robust anyway.

 

[box]

So if they don't recommend Transflow ML, what do they recommend?