Too little time!

Caesar Cigar

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I have two neighbours that have sheep and one of them drove past (after slowing down for a look) obviously with too little time to intervene to help this poor ewe. In his defence he may have phoned our offsite neighbour to inform him. Fair enough it’s not his, but is animal welfare not something we should all take seriously? Is this normal within the farming community? None of my busy to be fair.

The ewe is ok now.
 

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muleman

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I have two neighbours that have sheep and one of them drove past (after slowing down for a look) obviously with too little time to intervene to help this poor ewe. In his defence he may have phoned our offsite neighbour to inform him. Fair enough it’s not his, but is animal welfare not something we should all take seriously? Is this normal within the farming community? None of my busy to be fair.

The ewe is ok now.
I wouldn't really blame the neighbour if my sheep were on their back ...at least he phoned to tell you I suppose!
 

Caesar Cigar

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I wouldn't really blame the neighbour if my sheep were on their back ...at least he phoned to tell you I suppose!
I don’t think anyone would. He didn’t phone me I just assumed they would phone the person whose ewe it was.

I’m new to this so I don’t know how long a ewe can survive upside down for. I’ve flipped twenty or so over the years and my neighbour is usually very appreciative. Only one leg was twitching and took quite some time for her to be able to stand… and I’m late for a dentist appointment🤦‍♂️.
 

muleman

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I don’t think anyone would. He didn’t phone me I just assumed they would phone the person whose ewe it was.

I’m new to this so I don’t know how long a ewe can survive upside down for. I’ve flipped twenty or so over the years and my neighbour is usually very appreciative. Only one leg was twitching and took quite some time for her to be able to stand… and I’m late for a dentist appointment🤦‍♂️.
I would usually turn a sheep over for a neighbour ,it's nice to feel your doing some good.
If I was in a rush I would ring him.
Not sure there is a set rule how long they can last, some a few hours, some a few days.
 

Caesar Cigar

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Mixed Farmer
Depends largely on local corvid population. Many flocks have the odd one eyed sheep.
Seagulls, buzzards, crows all winged vermin looking for a cast ewe.
I have a very large parliament of rooks nesting in my ancient woodland therefor I do feel like I have to act quickly to avoid these “vermin” causing harm to my neighbours flocks. We also have a lot of seagulls and nesting buzzards, so time is of the essence.


Is there a particular reason you never flipped it back over yourself?

I would never ignore an animal in distress… ever. Sometimes I get it wrong and doing nothing is more appropriate, but that is due to lack of knowledge and experience not negligence.

My neighbour has already thanked me for righting her and I’ve told him if I get into bother for being late for my dentist, “you’ll need to do my extractions”😂.
 

Caesar Cigar

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That’s a tough one for you @d-wales. Ewes got to scratch that itch, if only someone would invent a back scratching crate - several stiff brushes attached to a motion detector activated vibrating plate. Or a reconfigured car wash…

Edit: The feckers would probably chew the power cable🤦‍♂️
 

Scholsey

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Herefordshire
I have two neighbours that have sheep and one of them drove past (after slowing down for a look) obviously with too little time to intervene to help this poor ewe. In his defence he may have phoned our offsite neighbour to inform him. Fair enough it’s not his, but is animal welfare not something we should all take seriously? Is this normal within the farming community? None of my busy to be fair.

The ewe is ok now.
Without sounding like a nob, surely it took longer to get your phone out, select camera and take a photo than it would have done to have jumped the fence and righted her yourself?
 

Caesar Cigar

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@Scholsey

In my defence I did run 200m (in my good shoes, could’ve changed into my boots) across a muddy field. I felt it was important for my neighbour to be able to check this ewe when he got there, hence the 3 second pause for a photo. I also told him the spray mark colour and location.

I was probably quicker than phoning him and informing him about it and waiting an hour or so for him to drive to site, locate then flip.
 

Caesar Cigar

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Mixed Farmer
On a similar note.

My friends (proper farmers) had a neighbour that kept losing cattle to drowning in the mud (he lived on site) and was an arseole. It took two years for animal health to shut him down and now their other neighbours don’t speak to them for being a grass. I find it uncomfortable that farmers stick together even when deep down they know what was happening was wrong! I make plenty of mistakes and I’m always grateful when it’s pointed out to me.
 

Bald Rick

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I put my cape on the other day and rescued a ewe on her back.

Remembering back to the days when I kept the buggers and that ideally you keep a hold until they have passed water, I straddled my legs as wide as they will go now (for they are some girth when blown - the sheep that is not parts of me .. Thnnrr, thnrr) and buried my fists in to her wool.

I had forgotten how difficult it is to remove the smell of sheep pee from trousers
 

vantage

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Pembs
I put my cape on the other day and rescued a ewe on her back.

Remembering back to the days when I kept the buggers and that ideally you keep a hold until they have passed water, I straddled my legs as wide as they will go now (for they are some girth when blown - the sheep that is not parts of me .. Thnnrr, thnrr) and buried my fists in to her wool.

I had forgotten how difficult it is to remove the smell of sheep pee from trousers
Trousers? :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL: :LOL:
 

Fendt516profi

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Yorkshire
I put my cape on the other day and rescued a ewe on her back.

Remembering back to the days when I kept the buggers and that ideally you keep a hold until they have passed water, I straddled my legs as wide as they will go now (for they are some girth when blown - the sheep that is not parts of me .. Thnnrr, thnrr) and buried my fists in to her wool.

I had forgotten how difficult it is to remove the smell of sheep pee from trousers
She wouldn't have been able to pee on them if they weren't round your ankles
 

Caesar Cigar

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Mixed Farmer
She wouldn't have been able to pee on them if they weren't round your ankles
Reminds me of a story from my apprenticeship days in Glasgow.

An elderly plumber from Barra who had had hassle from the new police on the island thought he would teach them a lesson. So he set himself up with a ewes back legs in his wellies and her front legs over the fence at a particularly sharp bend over a rise after a long straight. When he saw the lights of the oncoming police car doing its evening rounds he whipped down his troos and began a rocking motion. Needless to say they left the road and into the field. Had many an interesting yarn to tell, RIP Roddy McKinnan. Sorely missed.

Didn’t know that you should hold them till they pas water, thanks for helping me improve my technique @Bald Rick 👍.
 
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Caesar Cigar

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I stand corrected. The person who drove past has nothing to do with farming! So to answer my question “ Do the farming community stick together?” Yes they do. My question should’ve been “Do the general public do enough to help farmers?” The answer is no!

Apologies for my disparaging questions.
 

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