Trailed forage harvesters

james ds

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leinster
A recent picture of the jumbo . Looking fresh near the end of its 5th season.
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james ds

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Location
leinster
whats the smallest wagon, they seem to hold secondhand value well, i could do my own with a brace of little ones.
Anything smaller than a pottinger 4500 is too slow . Any smaller than this size in any brand is a chain drive machine , your better off with the gearbox machines.
 

Speedstar

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Location
Scottish Borders
Problem is more than likely the fact everyone else discusses the benefits of different systems and machines, you immediately come in and have a go at anyone who doesn't do it your way using your choice of machinery.
I have no issues with forage wagons but they wouldn't suit us at all, neither would bales or trailed harvester, so we use a spfh and I don't slag off any one else's choice of system.
Very true well said
 

Walter R

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These forage wagon things, to me they seem very ineffient, the business end spends most of its time travelling up and down the road, no wonder they don't cost much in spare parts, they only do a few hours work a day., like wise, having 210 hp pulling the grass back to the farm seems a bit excessive.
 

james ds

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Location
leinster
These forage wagon things, to me they seem very ineffient, the business end spends most of its time travelling up and down the road, no wonder they don't cost much in spare parts, they only do a few hours work a day., like wise, having 210 hp pulling the grass back to the farm seems a bit excessive.
210 hp is pulling the same as two average loads of grass pulled by two 140 hp tractors at a time , 210 hp is harvesting and drawing in 50 acres a day on its own with one man . A trailed harvester could have 500 hp burning fuel between them to do the same work.
 

fiat 9090

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Location
co offaly eire
Done 350 acres or 2500-2700 tons with a brand new Lely Storm.
Give it power and did it in half the time of previous years. Winner.
Works for us as we have 3 pits plenty of trailers and tractors, while we pick the conditions particularly for crop quality and soil conditions.
Personally would not wish to rely on a contractor for what is arguably our most important crop.
no your not a little farmer m
i do 3500 a year with fusion baler wrapper no wasteage or contractors to pay, different quality stuff in different stacks am i a little farmer?
y cousin has 350 cows and he wraps all the silage not every system suits every one there are pro s and cons with every system I personally use wagons cos I’m not doing enough acres for a self propelled
 

JPM

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210 hp is pulling the same as two average loads of grass pulled by two 140 hp tractors at a time , 210 hp is harvesting and drawing in 50 acres a day on its own with one man . A trailed harvester could have 500 hp burning fuel between them to do the same work.

If you had a silage trailer the same cubic capacity as your wagon filled by a SPFH I could believe that you’d get 1/3 more grass/weight on your wagon than the trailer as the wagon packs it in. I doubt very much you’d get twice as much in though.
 

sawdust

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Location
Argyll
If you had a silage trailer the same cubic capacity as your wagon filled by a SPFH I could believe that you’d get 1/3 more grass/weight on your wagon than the trailer as the wagon packs it in. I doubt very much you’d get twice as much in though.
A man in Wales told me he was asked to lead silage with his wagon from an spfh, chopper man stopped saying he was full, he thought aye right:rolleyes: then dropped the reel and stuck another 300 yards of grass in the wagon!
 

james ds

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leinster
If you had a silage trailer the same cubic capacity as your wagon filled by a SPFH I could believe that you’d get 1/3 more grass/weight on your wagon than the trailer as the wagon packs it in. I doubt very much you’d get twice as much in though.
Your right , it's the size of the big wagons , very few trailers as big as the big wagons , with 24-27 ft bodies. The average silage trailer is bringing 9-10 ton of grass , the big new wagons are bringing 20 ton when the grass is packed up from the bottom. Farmers watching the wagons working are of ton amazed at how much ground they clear in a load , we went into a 5 acre field of good secondcut lastyear with 2 wagons , the farmer was at the gate to direct us out on the road as it was at a dangerous bend , we cleared the field in the 2 load and were out the gate in 8 minutes. He couldn't believe it.
 

JPM

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Your right , it's the size of the big wagons , very few trailers as big as the big wagons , with 24-27 ft bodies. The average silage trailer is bringing 9-10 ton of grass , the big new wagons are bringing 20 ton when the grass is packed up from the bottom. Farmers watching the wagons working are of ton amazed at how much ground they clear in a load , we went into a 5 acre field of good secondcut lastyear with 2 wagons , the farmer was at the gate to direct us out on the road as it was at a dangerous bend , we cleared the field in the 2 load and were out the gate in 8 minutes. He couldn't believe it.

You must be working with wet grass surely? We weighed a QM11 load through the Keenan as we were buying it from the field one year. From memory it was between 5-6 tonne
 

james ds

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Location
leinster
You must be working with wet grass surely? We weighed a QM11 load through the Keenan as we were buying it from the field one year. From memory it was between 5-6 tonne
We rarely draw wet grass , I've found that there is very little differance in the weight of a load of wet or dry grass in the wagon , if the grass is dry you pack a far better load and it will push the grass up high over the sides , but when wet it's hard to get grass up over the sides. So basically the dryer the grass the more you bring so the weight doesn't change much.
 

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