Twin Lamb

[johnb5555]

Brought lambing ewes into shed week ago, normally feed blocks inside as they're a pain to feed with rolls
This time trying liquid molasses with urea and 4 have gone down with twin lamb. 2 responding to treatment ,other 2 looking dopey.
Just wondering will it be twin lamb or could it be something else, as in too much molasses or not getting enough from it

 

[neilo]

What else are they having? How many lambs are in them? What sort of ewes? Have they been used to using liquid/ball feeders?

 

[Still Farming]

Brought lambing ewes into shed week ago, normally feed blocks inside as they're a pain to feed with rolls
This time trying liquid molasses with urea and 4 have gone down with twin lamb. 2 responding to treatment ,other 2 looking dopey.
Just wondering will it be twin lamb or could it be something else, as in too much molasses or not getting enough from it

Condition group, scanned or not , put in smaller groups , etc.
Are they flat out ,gone down, twitching, staring etc etc.
Get twin lamb dose down them asap and regularly.
Shock putting in
Change of diet.
Too much competition.
Wet weather dragged down etc etc.

 

[Stewartry hill]

Best give some calcium just incase

 

[johnb5555]

Texel x and Mule ewes, in good condition , not scanned
Getting haylage and put some blocks out as well now
First time I've used ĺiquid, 4 twin ball feeders between 150 ewes
Used blocks only inside last 5 years no problems

 

[Still Farming]

Some not taking it then?

 

[livestock 1]

What type of molasses exactly is it?

 

[livestock 1]

Urea can be dangerous if the ewes aren’t in the right condition.
The urea is very hard on inlamb ewes. I use promol 20 urea. The sheep needs energy-to digest the protein and if the protein is too high and energy intakes too low the ewes will go into emergency mode and start using their own body fat store to digest the protein. Atkins diet.
I would suggest pure cane molasses no protein in it
I’m not lecturing it’s happened to me before and I kept shoving in the urea molasses and made matters worse until I found out the problem

 

[John Chance]

Blood test asap. It will tell you for sure if you have energy or protein deficiencies.

Or if one dies, PM it asap.

 

[livestock 1]

Father always used pure cane and said it was best. I used and still do when I can get hold of it highland blend molasses pot ale 50/50. Not meant for sheep due to copper content but we are extremely low in copper here. Moved onto promol 20 but feed beet ad lib alongside it and all our sheep learn to eat roots as hoggs so that could make the difference. Moving sheep at this time of year is stressful to them and them taking twin lamb is nothing new. Sometimes it’s the fat ones that used to get it here because they hadn’t enough energy to convert the fat. Beet has stopped it touch wood

 

[z.man]

Had a bit of staggers in ewe’s coming inside this year, calciject had them right as rain in around an hour if caught early enough, all good now been in 10 days, so much wet in the poor buggers

 

[Bob]

Why is it a pain to feed rolls?? Changing diet close to lambing is a recipe for disaster. Get some proper feed for them quick

 

[livestock 1]

Most of the lambing work here is done before lambing

 

[neilo]

I like liquid feeds, but I wouldn’t consider them a concentrate replacement, just a way of delaying introduction of feed or a way of reducing concentrate requirement.

 

[livestock 1]

I like liquid feeds, but I wouldn’t consider them a concentrate replacement, just a way of delaying introduction of feed or a way of reducing concentrate requirement.

They don’t replace concentrates in my eyes either

 

[steveR]

Get some pure Glucose buckets?

We have fouind that some ewes will not eat the molassed buckets for some reason, glucose is very palatable and can help with energy deficiencies.

Calcijet is like a miracle pre and post lambing! I found a first timer flat out yesterday, 6 days after I pulled twins. Got her up and it looke like classic milk fever in a cow, so popped 30ml of calcijet under the skin, 30mins later all happy again!

 

[johnb5555]

What type of molasses exactly is it?

easi-sheep 22

 

[johnb5555]

Why is it a pain to feed rolls?? Changing diet close to lambing is a recipe for disaster. Get some proper feed for them quick

Mostly I got tired of being pinned to the wall by 50 ewes who couldn't tell there were rolls amongst the straw

 

[Agrivator]

Mostly I got tired of being pinned to the wall by 50 ewes who couldn't tell there were rolls amongst the straw

If you can't feed housed-sheep properly, they shouldn't be housed at all.

 

[aangus]

Why did you change from the feed blocks