Uk in forty years time

[Exfarmer]

Allowing Sharia courts to operate in any way in the UK, is a stain on our society.
It was started in response to the fact ,many moslem men here have more than one wife, despite it being illegal in this country.
It was started, so these men could formalise their divorce, from one or more, of their wives, so they could marry more!
Unlike most wives in the UK , many Moslem wives here get little or no share of the family assets on marriage breakdown.
This is all condoned by the liberal left, and ignored by the rest.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Allowing Sharia courts to operate in any way in the UK, is a stain on our society.
It was started in response to the fact ,many moslem men here have more than one wife, despite it being illegal in this country.
It was started, so these men could formalise their divorce, from one or more, of their wives, so they could marry more!
Unlike most wives in the UK , many Moslem wives here get little or no share of the family assets on marriage breakdown.
This is all condoned by the liberal left, and ignored by the rest.

Agreed

If you want to live that way do it in your country of origin

 

[deleted user 837354]

I can understand people accumulating in areas of shared culture and so kind don't object to it. What I DO object to is them not fully adopting British laws. IMHO there is no space in the UK for sharia law or "honour" killings.

I think you will find killing is illegal per se under English law regardless of the justification presented as a defence.

What Sharia law are you referring to?

 

[Surgery]

I think @holwellcourtfarm is touching upon the fact in certain cities around the uk there are areas which have been taken over by populations who in a lot of circumstances do not want to intergrate into mainstream society and forcing their old country beliefs upon their community which unfortunately is fact.

this is something which has esculated massively within the last 10-20 years.

 

[wasted years]

More than one wife?
Living til 120?
Sounds bloody awful.

 

[Surgery]

More than one wife?
Living til 120?
Sounds bloody awful.

You forgot all the cash from taxi driving etc

 

[Ley253]

40 years ago none of us would have dreamed of spending an evening chatting to people on a computer. Computers were those things that had their own room in the University with climate control and worried looking people.
We would not have dreamed of being able to make a phone call while walking in the street (some of us in some areas still dream of that!). Children having a phone would have seemed odd and unnecessary, and the thought of combining a camera and a phone would have made us laugh!
Technology has moved on so fast, even in the last 10 years. I cannot imagine in 40 more years how it would have moved, and in what direction. Maybe we wont have to type (or dictate) and our thought processes will appear on a screen. I hope not - not that I will be here, but no one would be able to follow my train of thinking!

But, if they tried, it would be the most entertaining, and educational trip they would ever experience!

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

I think @holwellcourtfarm is touching upon the fact in certain cities around the uk there are areas which have been taken over by populations who in a lot of circumstances do not want to intergrate into mainstream society and forcing their old country beliefs upon their community which unfortunately is fact.

this is something which has esculated massively within the last 10-20 years.

Correct.

Sharia courts are being used within these enclaves to determine family law matters and low level crime according to their customs. This should not be tolerated in the UK. Could you imagine being allowed to operate a uk justice system within a closed British community in their counties?

 

[Danllan]

Hmm... I'm on the record as being against mass immigration, and I think that importing Islam even more daft. However, the laws we have are on the whole sound, certainly the principals of Anglo-Welsh Jurisprudence are excellent. This being so and the law being where it is, anyone is free to and can choose to negotiate and accept a deal, or have themselves dealt with according to a set of rules - be it club, college or religion - as they wish, providing they do not transgress the law. Many people have lawyers arbitrate between them and accept the decisions made; many farmers will do the same with agents regarding a land price; Sharia 'tribunals' are no different unless they try to take on the role of the Courts and ignore our national laws.

I don't like the fact of there being so many Muslims in the UK, I don't like their particular delusion of choice, and I really don't like the majority of Islamic Jurisprudence but, unless they try to subvert the law here, they are free to do what they will within it.

 

[czechmate]

Correct.

Sharia courts are being used within these enclaves to determine family law matters and low level crime according to their customs. This should not be tolerated in the UK. Could you imagine being allowed to operate a uk justice system within a closed British community in their counties?

Due to the huge amount of uk ex pats in France (it surprises me there is anyone left in the uk) and their admittedly somewhat bizarre inheritance laws, the French have allowed a different (uk based) inheritance law for ex pats.

 

[Exfarmer]

Sharia courts are being used widely for divorce in the Muslim community. A woman who goes against the decision faces ostracism even from her own family. The reason being the overarching dominance of men in their society. Such decisions would not be allowed in a Christian community, although no doubt some will find exceptions in some of the more extreme cults. This should not give any excuse to Moslem communities and all cases of abuse should be prosecuted.
The case of FGM is a different issue, widespread in this same community, which is gross child abuse and is a total disgrace.

 

[fiatagri10090dt]

Being born early 70's you remember that life seemed so different looking back.

The countries jam packed with people and traffic now what's it going to be like in forty years time?

Very sorry for leaving Europe

 

[carpenter1]

I doubt it. They're all leaving the southeast for a better lifestyle in the southwest. The attraction of living around here used to be that it was easy to get into London for work but now, thanks to southern rail, they'd be lucky to get in more that two days a week.

oh thanks do not send them down here, enough already

 

[jerseycowsman]

Interesting, I've spent a lot of time in Japan and I think you are more or less right. But Japan also has one huge advantage, this being that it has / is a very homogenous and therefore united society. Sadly, we have been 'enriched' by mass immigration and seen our country regionalised, very much at the demand and with the encouragement of the EU (divide and rule being the maxim of the day for them). All this leading to a society and country that is certainly much less united that it was before.

Japan also has an almost entirely internalised national debt, an advantage in one way - currency fluctuations don't affect it - and a disadvantage in another, since other countries have less interest in supporting your currency at times of need.

Over half our immigrants every year come from out side the eu, does the EU force them on us or is that our own crap politicians unable to tackle the problem? It's easier to blame it on the EU

 

[RushesToo]

Due to the huge amount of uk ex pats in France (it surprises me there is anyone left in the uk) and their admittedly somewhat bizarre inheritance laws, the French have allowed a different (uk based) inheritance law for ex pats.

@czechmate How does that work?

What if a French man marries an English women and vice-versa or a naturalised English to French person divorces an English spouse - This sounds lunacy!

 

[czechmate]

@czechmate How does that work?

What if a French man marries an English women and vice-versa or a naturalised English to French person divorces an English spouse - This sounds lunacy!

Starting point, there is no one French born in my family so I don't (need to) know!
Maybe in that situation, they have the choice which inheritance laws they chose to use?
Doesn't seem lunacy to me at all, flexible and obliging in my opinion , esp to myself as my wife is not my kids mothers

 

[RushesToo]

Starting point, there is no one French born in my family so I don't (need to) know!
Maybe in that situation, they have the choice which inheritance laws they chose to use?
Doesn't seem lunacy to me at all, flexible and obliging in my opinion , esp to myself as my wife is not my kids mothers

Recommend that the kids become lawyers - there will be a lot to untangle!

 

[Bury the Trash]

Practical skills ie. carpentry will be being encouraged / learnt as so few will have them. Ordinary tradesmen type workers numbers will be at an all time low in the interim.