Used ibc tanks

[Happy hillbily]

Not sure where to put this.
Seen on facebook earlier, a bit of a warning if using used ibc tanks for watering livestock.

 

[Bury the Trash]

Urea can be evil stuff.


I find them very difficult to washout, thoroughly,
best,or,excellent even use, is for logs in the cages and. Use proper black tanks for drinking water which keeps the sunlight out as well ..

 

[multi power]

Urea is EVIL
Don't think there is anything else to be added

 

[Highland Mule]

Presumably "a diesel fuel additive containing Urea" would be Ad-blue?

 

[Sharpy]

Surely if they are triple rinsed (like a spray can) they will be clean?

 

[Dry Rot]

We did a test during my brief spell at vet college. A drop of water containing, I think, strychnine, was added to a test tube of water. The test tube was then washed out several times with clean water. Then we did a test for strychnine with more fresh water in the test tube which would come up positive for strychnine. (I forget the details, it was many decades ago!). That made quite an impact on us students who, like everyone else, believed washing with water leaves stuff clean.

 

[Still Farming]

We did a test during my brief spell at vet college. A drop of water containing, I think, strychnine, was added to a test tube of water. The test tube was then washed out several times with clean water. Then we did a test for strychnine with more fresh water in the test tube which would come up positive for strychnine. (I forget the details, it was many decades ago!). That made quite an impact on us students who, like everyone else, believed washing with water leaves stuff clean.

And waste pesticides rules and regs state used containers to be triple rinsed?

Also strychnine kills 9 times don't it if eaten,then that eaten and so on allegedly they say?

 

[milkloss]

Only ever used ibc that have had manganese in them which would seem to be quite easily to clean.

whats the best way to ensure an ex urea ibc is safe to use?

 

[Farmer Roy]

It is quite common practice to mix urea with molasses, particularly as a drought feed supplement, for cattle
Admittedly, at about 122 kg urea to 1000 litres of molasses, so fairly low consumption rate . . .
But - I question how much urea was left in the shuttle to still be poisonous when diluted in 1000 l of water ?
Surely, if urea can be safely fed to cattle in an 8% mix with molasses, then a rinsed out shuttle must have a very low concentration, even if the cattle were drinking 100 l each
Urea is deadly, but it’s not strychnine . . .

 

[Still Farming]

Use proper chemical tank cleaners ?

 

[Exfarmer]

if they are triple rinsed, their should be no issue.
Ad blue should be just urea in pure water at about 32%
even 10 litres left in a IBC should result in a dilution well below any risk if it was topped up with water, remember urea can be fed to cattle as a protein supplement, at a rate of up to 60grams a day
I would guess somebody probably topped up a container thinking it already held water and the thirsty cattle drank a poisonous dose. It depends of course on the quantity left in and how much was added.

 

[Exfarmer]

We did a test during my brief spell at vet college. A drop of water containing, I think, strychnine, was added to a test tube of water. The test tube was then washed out several times with clean water. Then we did a test for strychnine with more fresh water in the test tube which would come up positive for strychnine. (I forget the details, it was many decades ago!). That made quite an impact on us students who, like everyone else, believed washing with water leaves stuff clean.

The golden rule for triple rinsing, empty as much asx possible, leaving no more than 1%
refill, agitate, empty three times
any resulting residue when the container is refilled the fourth time will be diluted to 1 in 10,000,000
highly unlikely to kill any one even if the original product was pure strychnine

 

[Adam@Rumen]

We steam clean and pressure test well in excess of 100 IBCs a month for our formalin - once done properly there is next to no trace of any previous product.

Given the low inclusion of urea in ad blue, I would have said there was already a large quantity of ad blue in the IBC whne topped up with water.

 

[Nearly]

Reminds me of the 'urea in water bowser' incident a couple of years ago in UK.

Would rats eat it?

 

[Shann_mann]