I listen to the radio in a comfortable quiet air conditioned cab5400’s were ridiculous. 61,62,42 and 43 were quieter.
Tractors are quieter but they have also lost some character. Everyone remembers how good tractors used to sound without being ear splitting too.
I listen to the radio in a comfortable quiet air conditioned cab
I have no interest in listening to the exhaust and going wooo black smoke for 12 hour days
Yeah but it doesn’t really matter does it I couldn’t give a shite what my tractor sounds like aslong as I can’t hear much of it in the cabSame as, but you can’t tell me a new tractor sounds as nice as a MX135.
What needs changing? The 6.1L deutz is also used in the 828 at present if I’m correctThere is a 728 coming out isn't there so I presume something is changing in the engine department.
And it's the biggest piece of junk engine ever in a modern tractor.What needs changing? The 6.1L deutz is also used in the 828 at present if I’m correct
The ability to pick up the phone and provide meaningful support should be universal!Anyone else know of any other features that should be universal at AGCO?
That's reason enough to avoid them....the G-series and MF equivalent engines are made in China under Agco's license.
I don’t disagree at all. I was pointing out that a 728 is no guarantee of a new engine.And it's the biggest piece of junk engine ever in a modern tractor.
No cylinder liners and loads of emissions garbage attached to it and cranking 280 hp .
Plan on a new engine after 3k hrs.
Thankfully no more 800s in our fleet
Mike Mitchell doesn't think much of deutz engines in fendts . Terrible at cold starting in harsh Canadian winters !And it's the biggest piece of junk engine ever in a modern tractor.
No cylinder liners and loads of emissions garbage attached to it and cranking 280 hp .
Plan on a new engine after 3k hrs.
Thankfully no more 800s in our fleet
Mike Mitchell expecting any tractor to start cold from -30°C is straight up stupid. The blame was with the webasto's pre heating system that kept shutting off.Mike Mitchell doesn't think much of deutz engines in fendts . Terrible at cold starting in harsh Canadian winters !
There is a new generation of Valtra/AGCOpower engines due quite soon. The current generation is about average on fuel consumption and drive-by noise but excellent in power and torque characteristics and reliability by all accounts. The new generation promise to be much quieter and more frugal but that remains to be seen. There’s no actual launch date that has been made public either, so currently it is vapourware rather than hardware.Having changed from a Deutz to a Valtra with the sisu engine, it's bloody obvious why fender want to stick with the German motor.....
..... In comparison, the Sisu drinks worse than a politicians work group during lockdown
No way will fender be able to keep the marketing claim that their tractors are so efficient, they'll generate diesel
Unless they fit the CNH block instead
What needs changing? The 6.1L deutz is also used in the 828 at present if I’m correct
There is a new generation of Valtra/AGCOpower engines due quite soon. The current generation is about average on fuel consumption and drive-by noise but excellent in power and torque characteristics and reliability by all accounts. The new generation promise to be much quieter and more frugal but that remains to be seen. There’s no actual launch date that has been made public either, so currently it is vapourware rather than hardware.
The Deutz engines have not got a good reliability reputation even though they do have a reputation for being economical with fuel in some applications/installations.
Farm progress 2022 (September)new 700 will be launchedThere is a new generation of Valtra/AGCOpower engines due quite soon. The current generation is about average on fuel consumption and drive-by noise but excellent in power and torque characteristics and reliability by all accounts. The new generation promise to be much quieter and more frugal but that remains to be seen. There’s no actual launch date that has been made public either, so currently it is vapourware rather than hardware.
The Deutz engines have not got a good reliability reputation even though they do have a reputation for being economical with fuel in some applications/installations.
The 6 pot sisu is far more efficient than the 4 thoughHaving changed from a Deutz to a Valtra with the sisu engine, it's bloody obvious why fender want to stick with the German motor.....
..... In comparison, the Sisu drinks worse than a politicians work group during lockdown
No way will fender be able to keep the marketing claim that their tractors are so efficient, they'll generate diesel
Unless they fit the CNH block instead
Not likely. Do you measure this by how long it takes before a re-fuelling stop is needed?The 6 pot sisu is far more efficient than the 4 though