Volunteer to coordinate your local Good Friday Protest

[Cab-over Pete]

It's a shite slogan. There are less farmers year on year yet we are awash with food.

The lentil knitters have a better one. It gets to the heart of the matter, the one question that matters: Consolidation, or diversity ?

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Do the wimmin have dreadlocks and hairy armpits?

 

[delilah]

Do the wimmin have dreadlocks and hairy armpits?

Bottom left looks like she's up the duff.

 

[Tim W]

It's a shite slogan. There are less farmers year on year yet we are awash with food.

The lentil knitters have a better one. It gets to the heart of the matter, the one question that matters: Consolidation, or diversity ?

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That's another farmers union

 

[yin ewe]

Your spokespeople need to be able to tell the public what farmers want with a united front.
Have we established what everyone wants?
Why is it ok to cause disruption but when anyone else does it TFF is up in arms about it.

What if just stop oil decide to protest about farmers using all that diesel to protest at the same time?

 

[JP1]

It amazes me how many non NFU members think they are entitled to some kind of say in what they do, or that their opinion should be taken into account.
Not how unions work I'm afraid, not a member, nothing you can do even if what they do may end up affecting you.
That's just how it works I'm afraid.

Oh yes it is

I'm a levy payer so I should have a say with AHDB at the RT table (they agreed as did NFU with GFC add on last September)

On the NFU front I have every right as a FARMER to comment on their governance enquiry in to the mission creep of Red Tractor Assurance. They're the ones in front of the Minister, federation union members internationally and in front of the media . Now if they don't want to be around the cartel, fair enough, withdraw and we can take things up with the AIC and BRC via the Minister . Until then they're wedded to it and up to their necks in it

 

[slackjawedyokel]

Your spokespeople need to be able to tell the public what farmers want with a united front.
Have we established what everyone wants?
Why is it ok to cause disruption but when anyone else does it TFF is up in arms about it.

 

[kiwi pom]

Oh yes it is

I'm a levy payer so I should have a say with AHDB at the RT table (they agreed as did NFU with GFC add on last September)

On the NFU front I have every right as a FARMER to comment on their governance enquiry in to the mission creep of Red Tractor Assurance. They're the ones in front of the Minister, federation union members internationally and in front of the media . Now if they don't want to be around the cartel, fair enough, withdraw and we can take things up with the AIC and BRC via the Minister . Until then they're wedded to it and up to their necks in it

If you're not in the union, you have no say in what they do end of.

I'm generally against unions (although I was in one for ten years) but believe they do have their uses. I think a farmer's union in the UK is destined to fail because the membership is too diverse, even if it's just farmers (whatever they are) who can join. It's also why I think in time the BFU will struggle because just being a member of a union does not mean they will do what you want and resentment sets in.

But thinking you have a say while not being a member is silly. You can criticise them all you want, but you have no say in what they do, so it's fairly pointless.

 

[kiwi pom]

What if just stop oil decide to protest about farmers using all that diesel to protest at the same time?

Just stop oil blockaded all the farms and to stop the protestors getting out.

That would be interesting

 

[JP1]

If you're not in the union, you have no say in what they do end of.

I'm generally against unions (although I was in one for ten years) but believe they do have their uses. I think a farmer's union in the UK is destined to fail because the membership is too diverse, even if it's just farmers (whatever they are) who can join. It's also why I think in time the BFU will struggle because just being a member of a union does not mean they will do what you want and resentment sets in.

But thinking you have a say while not being a member is silly. You can criticise them all you want, but you have no say in what they do, so it's fairly pointless.

So the logical extension of your point is that the NFU need to decouple from RT. Then we fight to break RT

There is no “end of” .

 

[Hanspree]

Do farmers have the fight to protest anymore.
We dont have the support of the public anymore as they have been turned against us by animal rights and environmentalists.
We are constantly been blamed for destroying the planet by people with their mouths full while their planning their next flight on holiday the other side of the world, with nobody standing up for farmers.
I was at the fuel protests and FFA but I’m afraid farmers are literally just that fed up with been battered with red tape and regulations that are saying rubbish to it, let people do without food and putting everything in SFI.
Most of the general public are the ones dictating and inspecting us in order to justify themselves.
The way the NFU handled the red tractor farce just shows who they really represent, THEMSELVES. Maybe all anger should be directed at them for leaving us in this impossible situation.

 

[kiwi pom]

So the logical extension of your point is that the NFU need to decouple from RT. Then we fight to break RT

There is no “end of” .

The NFU will do whatever its members vote for I'd imagine.
Perhaps they don't vote

You're not a member, you get no say.

Sorry it's how the world works, people in power make decisions that the rest of us have to go along with.

 

[willy]

Rather than protesting, why not organise a day/week, when farmers stop everything leaving farm….I.e no produce sold. Organise the same with the pissd off European farmers, make a impact peacefully

 

[Kiwi Pete]

It's a shite slogan. There are less farmers year on year yet we are awash with food.

The lentil knitters have a better one. It gets to the heart of the matter, the one question that matters: Consolidation, or diversity ?

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Roger that "no farmers no food" BS.
It's cringeworthy.

The less we buy, the better we eat.

A more honest slogan would be "lots in common with any small business, but you'd never guess"

 

[JP1]

The NFU will do whatever its members vote for I'd imagine.
Perhaps they don't vote

You're not a member, you get no say.

Sorry it's how the world works, people in power make decisions that the rest of us have to go along with.

I’m a little closer to the reality over here than you

It’s precisely because there is not one member , one vote and the undue influence of the leadership and other interests that the NFU is in the mess it’s in over issues such as RT and GFC

The level of disquiet amongst the members and their County representatives is marked

The AHDB is a compulsory levy

It’s you that doesn’t understand how this part of the World works - currently

 

[ploughman1963]

Those of you running the BFU could name and picture yourselves on here.

Simple.

From what I’ve heard, you would do much better in terms of numbers and help if you did. Nobody wants to communicate with a faceless organisation.

Our identities are well known - a couple of clicks on any keyboard and youd have more info about any of us than most people would want to see of themselves. Ive had my username on here since TFF started and on BFF since around 2007 - changing that feels like getting rid of a piece of 'me' to be honest - I am on twitter under my own name and a bio on the BFU website so no attempt to hide identity here.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

Fair enough, it’s just a thought, and one that I’ve heard other people say.

 

[Henarar]

Not going to happen, the big boys complain about it, but they never intend to leave while it's there. They realise it's harder for the small farmers to comply with it, so they are less likely to do it, so competition reduces.
If you're a big operation with employees you don't even have to get involved with it, just have someone do it.
This notion that everyone will stand together is silly, farmers are all competing with one another, they just won't admit it.

Don't change what I said

 

[Henarar]

If you're not in the union, you have no say in what they do end of.

NFU is not a union

 

[soapsud]

Roger that "no farmers no food" BS.
It's cringeworthy.

The less we buy, the better we eat.

A more honest slogan would be "lots in common with any small business, but you'd never guess"

NFNF is fear-mongering which activists like @delilah obviously don't believe will assemble the £ paying middle classes. The LWA has increased its end of year returns by £100,000 over the last few years. It's small potatoes compared to the Soil Association which totals over the tens of millions.

Economics will drive this. Politics is a poor second. Food will go up in price and broadacre diesel heads will get rarer. Livestock will be reduced to guerrilla farming in the uplands.

 

[wrenbird]

This is what most people don’t understand. The NFU is, and never has been a ‘union’, and was never intended to be one.
When it was initially set up, by large, wealthy landowners in the east of England, somebody had the temerity to suggest that perhaps ordinary working, even tenant, farmers could join, or even (heaven forbid!) farm workers. The founder members were apoplectic with anger over this idea, these sort of people would not be welcome.
At its inception it was intended to be a kind of trade association/exclusive club for large landowners (not the people at the sharp end who actually get their hands dirty).

NFU is not a union