Wash day a few pictures for JP1 ,DaveJ and any other firemen part 1

[jamesy]

It's a tough tough job. In theory when you are jammed you should turn the siren off but position yourself to be seen and ready to move as soon as the traffic clears.

Bull horns at junctions are one of the best inventions IMO

When I did my efad training the instructor said Orkney is the worst place they go to for public reaction to blue lights/siren...... Basically no reaction!

That was showen straight away during the training with one van in particular not moving out of way at all. When we came to round about and drew up alongside the instructor said to pause alongside. There we were with lights going, sirens sounding and van driver looking straight ahead like we didn't exist. Kinda funny

 

[JP1]

When I did my efad training the instructor said Orkney is the worst place they go to for public reaction to blue lights/siren...... Basically no reaction!

That was showen straight away during the training with one van in particular not moving out of way at all. When we came to round about and drew up alongside the instructor said to pause alongside. There we were with lights going, sirens sounding and van driver looking straight ahead like we didn't exist. Kinda funny

Most folks in those videos moved out of the way when they could but in London especially there are a few that would cut you up or just carry on and seem immune from 200w yelpers!

I can picture the route in both of those blue light runs

I reckon the first video is an old A-Series Ford 6 cylinder automatic van, still quite impressive progress although I don't think the drive against the traffic at Trafalgar Square and in to Northumberland Avenue was appropriate - if anything had happened the driver would have been for the high jump

 

[sss]

A few of the toys, although we should be going Holmatro very soon.

My best side

Lets get this thing on the roof because we can

Now we can cut it up

I think we have made an entry

 

[jamesy]

A few of the toys, although we should be going Holmatro very soon.View attachment 123079

My best side

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Lets get this thing on the roof because we can

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Now we can cut it up

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I think we have made an entry

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All of Scotland's hydraulic cutting gear is banned for use during training, been this way for nearly 12months!

 

[JP1]

All of Scotland's hydraulic cutting gear is banned for use during training, been this way for nearly 12months!

Oh, why?

 

[jamesy]

Because of an injection injury due to pin hole in hose. I think a certain brand of aftermarket hose used in some areas has been pinpointed as not up to spec and has been taken off the run to be upgraded. Those with Lucas hose are ok & I expect will get the go ahead to resume use in training probably with extra safety measures.

Had a shot of battery cutting gear and it wasn't too bad

 

[DaveJ]

Because of an injection injury due to pin hole in hose. I think a certain brand of aftermarket hose used in some areas has been pinpointed as not up to spec and has been taken off the run to be upgraded. Those with Lucas hose are ok & I expect will get the go ahead to resume use in training probably with extra safety measures.

Had a shot of battery cutting gear and it wasn't too bad

I find the Lukas battery cutters very heavy. We have them on the Rural Response Pumps (van based) that have replaced all second pumps on two pump stations in Mid & West Wales.
I'm actually at the Fire Service College in Moreton in the Marsh typing this. Unfortunately not in a position to take photos, but if our training dept post the official ones to Facebook I'll put a link up. Any locals going for a beer in town tonight beware as there's 30+ Welsh firefighters out...

 

[jamesy]

I find the Lukas battery cutters very heavy. We have them on the Rural Response Pumps (van based) that have replaced all second pumps on two pump stations in Mid & West Wales.
I'm actually at the Fire Service College in Moreton in the Marsh typing this. Unfortunately not in a position to take photos, but if our training dept post the official ones to Facebook I'll put a link up. Any locals going for a beer in town tonight beware as there's 30+ Welsh firefighters out...

What course are you doing?

They are a fair weight but were better to use than I expected.

 

[itsalwaysme]

I haven't got many of our current appliance to hand, but will rectify that when I get a chance. I scanned the below for our old Watch Manger's retirement do:



This appliance had been replaced by the time I joined, but I went to a couple of shouts on it as it was Command Spare at the time so we had it whenever ours went for service.
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Looking at the registration number on that one, I could have PDI'd it, used to work at a Bedford dealer, and we did the pdi's and warranty work for CFE / Saxon
Am I really that old

 

[JP1]

Because of an injection injury due to pin hole in hose. I think a certain brand of aftermarket hose used in some areas has been pinpointed as not up to spec and has been taken off the run to be upgraded. Those with Lucas hose are ok & I expect will get the go ahead to resume use in training probably with extra safety measures.

Had a shot of battery cutting gear and it wasn't too bad

I thought you were going to say because there had been "accidents" with them

SFRS had one incident a long way back apparently where a firefighter had nipped a finger or part off. He must have been a f'ckwit from the back of beyond like Saxmundham as those things crimp so slowly you'd have a real job to do it on your self !

 

[DaveJ]

What course are you doing?

They are a fair weight but were better to use than I expected.

Welsh Region Vertical Training. It's a tailor made practical Incident Command course originally set up for the 3 Welsh services, but only Mid & West currently use it. We basically hire much of their incident ground for a weekend and they set up a mix of road traffic collisions and real fires using the multitude of training facilities. For example a car colliding with a train will not just have a real car, but also a full size train sitting on a stretch of line across a level crossing. And the finale was a 6 story building fire involving 4 appliances.

I was there for a refresher as I got my Crew Manager's stripes 2 years ago but several others were being assessed to take an appliance out in charge for the first time. Also a lot of probationers came down to act as crew. Fantastic experience for them.

 

[jamesy]

Welsh Region Vertical Training. It's a tailor made practical Incident Command course originally set up for the 3 Welsh services, but only Mid & West currently use it. We basically hire much of their incident ground for a weekend and they set up a mix of road traffic collisions and real fires using the multitude of training facilities. For example a car colliding with a train will not just have a real car, but also a full size train sitting on a stretch of line across a level crossing. And the finale was a 6 story building fire involving 4 appliances.

I was there for a refresher as I got my Crew Manager's stripes 2 years ago but several others were being assessed to take an appliance out in charge for the first time. Also a lot of probationers came down to act as crew. Fantastic experience for them.

Sounds good! Our IC courses concentrate on two appliance turn outs mainly I suppose because anything "bigger" than that a flexi officer would attend.

 

[DaveJ]

Sounds good! Our IC courses concentrate on two appliance turn outs mainly I suppose because anything "bigger" than that a flexi officer would attend.

We had two flexis (one a Group Manager) come on the course to renew their Incident Command competency. Makes a change to the computerised simulations they usually get and provided extra realism for the crews. The official pictures (lots) are now up. I'll leave you work out which is me.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1052041934813914&type=3&l=030b4f3987

 

[JP1]

We had two flexis (one a Group Manager) come on the course to renew their Incident Command competency. Makes a change to the computerised simulations they usually get and provided extra realism for the crews. The official pictures (lots) are now up. I'll leave you work out which is me.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1052041934813914&type=3&l=030b4f3987

Great photoset there, thanks for sharing

 

[JP1]

@Xerion @DaveJ @jamesy

Quite a feat for charity here:

 

[Xerion]

Respect !!!!!
Those guys are going to earn every penny .

Max

 

[JP1]

Compact and bijou. Old Harlow station near my birthplace

 

[benferg]

I think ours is older....

In NZ we go to Rotorua for officer training they have a city mock up plus train ship fuel station and high rise etc
We were practicing 2 and 4 pump turnouts.
hope to get back there in the next few months.

Interesting chocking device you use on cars. Any chance of a close up view. What do you think of it?

 

[DaveJ]

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I think ours is older....

In NZ we go to Rotorua for officer training they have a city mock up plus train ship fuel station and high rise etc
We were practicing 2 and 4 pump turnouts.
hope to get back there in the next few months.

Interesting chocking device you use on cars. Any chance of a close up view. What do you think of it?

Not sure which of us you were asking. In Mid & West Wales we use a system called "Stabfast" which is supplied by cutting equipment manufacturers Weber Hydraulik. Basically the kit consists of three telescopic props with truck type ratchet straps attached and a wedge. The other big European name in rescue gear, Holmatro, apparently have a similar setup out now.

We think it's brilliant. Very quick to get to work and the vehicle is completely stable afterwards. Only snag is the complete kit does take up quite a bit of stowage space. Not got any pictures to hand, but this video shows it in more detail anyway:

 

[JP1]

Not sure which of us you were asking. In Mid & West Wales we use a system called "Stabfast" which is supplied by cutting equipment manufacturers Weber Hydraulik. Basically the kit consists of three telescopic props with truck type ratchet straps attached and a wedge. The other big European name in rescue gear, Holmatro, apparently have a similar setup out now.

We think it's brilliant. Very quick to get to work and the vehicle is completely stable afterwards. Only snag is the complete kit does take up quite a bit of stowage space. Not got any pictures to hand, but this video shows it in more detail anyway:

Think they didn't bother with the stabfast here; "enquiry" said slipped on ice ; no sh1t Sherlock

Crashed Suffolk fire engine 'skidded on ice'

• 3 April 2015
  
• From the section Suffolk

The fire engine, based at Stowmarket, crashed on its way to a road traffic accident in January
A fire engine responding to an emergency overturned after skidding on ice, an investigation has found.

The vehicle crashed into a verge at Onehouse near Stowmarket, Suffolk, and ended up on its side, at about 09:00 GMT on 29 January.

One crew member was knocked unconscious and taken to hospital. The fire engine is being repaired.

An investigation by Suffolk Fire and Rescue Service found the crash was an accident and no-one was to blame.

The speed at which the fire engine was travelling has not been disclosed.

One member of the fire engine crew was knocked unconscious and taken to hospital

The speed at which the fire engine was travelling has not been disclosed

The engine tipped on to its side on Lower Road, Onehouse
The engine, from Stowmarket, was responding to a two-vehicle crash at Stowmarket Road, Shelland, in which several people were taken to hospital.

The fire engine ended up on its side on Lower Road, Onehouse and the other crew members were uninjured.