What's wrong with these tractors

[Nithsdale]

I only wish they'd kept evolving these four-pot ones I would even put up with liquid cooling if the basic recipe was the same - there really isn't much to fault the basic design on.
And a proper fuel miser, too, I topped up my tank this afternoon after 25 hours and used less than 75 litres, just on silage and scraping as is winter duty.

Where they really shine is on a hill, there are few places you can go with duals and not feel safe.
Any other tractor though

not a hope - too heavy, too tall, too useless.

SAME still make the Explorer.

http://www.same-tractors.com/en-gb/tractors/open-field/2008-explorer

 

[John100]

 

[Deutzdx3]

Dealer network is awful here too.

There are a few good dealers now. They will ship parts any where as they know the dealer network is still weak. M j fry. Great dealer. R c boreham. Great to deal with.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

That was excellent

No wonder they beefed up the front wheel centres on our ones!!

 

[Still Farming]

Our brand new Mcormick had an A4 Sheet of paper list of faults years ago when we bought one -soon went.
Price was good ,I liked tractor but faults , terrible.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Does yours do that Pete?

I wonder how many times he got it wrong before he got it right

 

[John100]

I know things like SAME's 4 wheel braking and twin difflocks isn't a big selling point for most people, But when you're on a hill farm, it makes a huge difference to working safely, it really took a lot of stress and deaths out of the whole job.
Honestly I still think a lot of other makes are unsafe in comparison, braking through the 4wd is not quite the same safety margin

 

[Nithsdale]

I know things like SAME's 4 wheel braking and twin difflocks isn't a big selling point for most people, But when you're on a hill farm, it makes a huge difference to working safely, it really took a lot of stress and deaths out of the whole job.
Honestly I still think a lot of other makes are unsafe in comparison, braking through the 4wd is not quite the same safety margin

+1

The true 4-wheel braking should be standard on every tractor.

 

[John100]

That was excellent

No wonder they beefed up the front wheel centres on our ones!!

Thats a big fault on them, loader tractors always have reinforced plates or ben hur chariot wheels

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Does yours do that Pete?

I wonder how many times he got it wrong before he got it right

Have had her up on 2 plenty of times, but not 2 on the same side
I did wonder if they chocked up the front axle a little?

I know things like SAME's 4 wheel braking and twin difflocks isn't a big selling point for most people, But when you're on a hill farm, it makes a huge difference to working safely, it really took a lot of stress and deaths out of the whole job.
Honestly I still think a lot of other makes are unsafe in comparison, braking through the 4wd is not quite the same safety margin

Couldn't agree more.

It only takes that front wheel to start going backwards and the rest is up to lady luck . not a cool situation

 

[GordonRS]

The first tractor I bought was a deutz k110 (07 plate) This year. Inherited the running of an ageing family farm and a better tractor was a must after the 20 year old failing masseys. Listed at 19k then added loader new rear tyres and 3 loader implements total cost 23k. It's been flawless. Thouroughly impressed with deutz after barely knowing about them beforehand

 

[ollie989898]

At least with a Fendt (Redlynch), Deere (Smarts) or NH/Case (TH Whites) around here you have a dealer network that will put a machine right quickly or at least loan you something in the meantime. I couldn't tell you where the nearest Deutz/SDF dealer was. Valtra aren't bad with Mr Cox down the road, either.

 

[Nithsdale]

Thats a big fault on them, loader tractors always have reinforced plates or ben hur chariot wheels

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Oh so common a sight

 

[Al R]

At least with a Fendt (Redlynch), Deere (Smarts) or NH/Case (TH Whites) around here you have a dealer network that will put a machine right quickly or at least loan you something in the meantime. I couldn't tell you where the nearest Deutz/SDF dealer was. Valtra aren't bad with Mr Cox down the road, either.

Barnes doesnt do Valtra anymore then?
You’ve also got Lister close for MF/fendt

 

[Kelso690]

I only wish they'd kept evolving these four-pot ones I would even put up with liquid cooling if the basic recipe was the same - there really isn't much to fault the basic design on.
And a proper fuel miser, too, I topped up my tank this afternoon after 25 hours and used less than 75 litres, just on silage and scraping as is winter duty.

Where they really shine is on a hill, there are few places you can go with duals and not feel safe.
Any other tractor though

not a hope - too heavy, too tall, too useless.

Deutz agrofarm sought of replaced the exploder, Same front axle which was pretty much bomb proof apart from king pin bearings if they never saw a grease gun, Same agroshift transmission available with power shuttle and deutz engine. Think the 5110 is the more recent model. Neighbour has one, nice little tractor apart from ad blue [emoji24]

 

[firther]

if/when subs go do you think people will go back to more basic tractors?

 

[CharcoalWally]

if/when subs go do you think people will go back to more basic tractors?

The biggest , strongest bullock on the farm will be hitched to a cart. All hay stooks will be hand loaded onto the cart.

It'll be great! The weather will be better and we'll all be fitter

 

[hendrebc]

How did he drive it on 2 wheels like that

 

[Old Tip]

SAME still make the Explorer.

http://www.same-tractors.com/en-gb/tractors/open-field/2008-explorer

I have the grey version

 

[Weasel]

The biggest , strongest bullock on the farm will be hitched to a cart. All hay stooks will be hand loaded onto the cart.

It'll be great! The weather will be better and we'll all be fitter

Pity help them boys who have Angus cattle then, biggest Angus bullock won't pull a wheelbarrow