Wheat variety choices next year?

[Shutesy]

no offence to those called graham but just cant bring myself to order graham, revelation hope it it is, barrel roll on,montana like the concept of wide open spaces , siskin reminds me of my big sister, tower its above us etc etc funny how names effect the thought process and am really struggling to order something that sounds like a chavs childs name even though its a top yielder kerrin

I can't see how the variety name has any impact on what your buying? I'm growing Kerrin and the name never had any impact on whether I bought it or not, the performance of the crop is the important bit. Cross out the names on your list and name them 1,2,3,4 pick the one that suits what you want the crop to do best from its stats off the recommended list and/or local trials, uncover the name and order the seed!

 

[4course]

I can't see how the variety name has any impact on what your buying? I'm growing Kerrin and the name never had any impact on whether I bought it or not, the performance of the crop is the important bit. Cross out the names on your list and name them 1,2,3,4 pick the one that suits what you want the crop to do best from its stats off the recommended list and/or local trials, uncover the name and order the seed!

its marketing otherwise they might as well just be numbers but my post was meant as a bit of fun however I used to love marathon chocolate bars now very rarely buy snickers dont like the name and they should bring back huntsman and good old norman the years of profitability and strong names ho ho

 

[4course]

another was avalon big broad flag leaf was around for years always made a premium and was where king arthurs sword was forged(strong) much better than a hole in the ice of a glacier moulin formed by meltwater(weak)

 

[Northdowns Martin]

On experience is Siskin an early maturing variety? Looking for one to grow in front of osr on heavyish land.

 

[FarmerBruce]

On experience is Siskin an early maturing variety? Looking for one to grow in front of osr on heavyish land.

It goes flat. Leave it alone

 

[Northdowns Martin]

It goes flat. Leave it alone

Flat with yield or flat with weak straw?

 

[kc6475]

Flat with yield or flat with weak straw?

It's weak strawed and is a leggy variety, shame because I wanted to grow it on from last year, but haven't risked it, was our worst for going flat last year, but still produced decent grain and yielded well.

 

[Brisel]

In what way do you reduce fungicide if a higher score?

When you compare Siskin or Graham to a hungry variety like Diego they didn’t need a big expensive T1 to cure the mildew and yellow rust as well as a bigger SDHI to keep a lid on septoria. T2 was the same here because although Graham & Siskin were cleaner their potential was better too in the wet late May.

 

[willy]

Anyone grown gravity before?
I have some and so far looks good.

I also have shabras and Belgrade, belgrade looks the best of these.

Also have some mowtown and sundance, although the sundance is a bit late for what I want, will see how it does.

 

[FarmerBruce]

Flat with yield or flat with weak straw?

Weak straw!!!

 

[franklin]

Siskin has done 4.11t/ac of full spec 76/250/13. It threshes will. Doesnt cover the ground in autumn. And weak straw. My brother has put 6ha in after grass, but in the main we are growing Lili. Relay keeps doing the business in all sorts of conditions.

 

[Wombat]

Anyone grown gravity before?
I have some and so far looks good.

I also have shabras and Belgrade, belgrade looks the best of these.

Also have some mowtown and sundance, although the sundance is a bit late for what I want, will see how it does.

We have some Sundance in this year and it's just Spd but it seems to have really motored through winter even with it being so wet since drilling. It seems to have a bit of fight to it so will see how well it tillers over the next couple of months

 

[4course]

siskin did well here last yr and looks ok atm

 

[Warp Land Farmer]

We have some Sundance in this year and it's just Spd but it seems to have really motored through winter even with it being so wet since drilling. It seems to have a bit of fight to it so will see how well it tillers over the next couple of months

I fancied Sundance but was put off by the *potential* low bushel - will be watching with interest although your land type is somewhat different from ours! Went for Shabras instead.

 

[4course]

sundance ,another one that the name is a slight problem nothing to do with its agronomic traits more to do with that redford guy and mrs4courses crush on the bugger ever since butch cassidy and the sundance kid ,cos every time its repeated it gets a rerun here, it would be sheer hell if we had it to look at and compare with my choice all year, ho ho

 

[Barry]

I can't see how the variety name has any impact on what your buying? I'm growing Kerrin and the name never had any impact on whether I bought it or not, the performance of the crop is the important bit. Cross out the names on your list and name them 1,2,3,4 pick the one that suits what you want the crop to do best from its stats off the recommended list and/or local trials, uncover the name and order the seed!

You are absolutely right a variety name shouldn't have an impact but it is a fact of advertising that the right name and right advert get people to notice a product and with so many choices it does sometimes tip the balance.

Also most breeders now stick their prefix in front or have some form of common aspect to their names.

The latter doesn't really work for me, I don't think a lot of people look and think 'oh there's the new one from so and so'. Though you may argue that some of Monsanto/De Kalb's success on OSR comes from people looking for the next 'Ex...' Hybrid. Or the next line of wheat from KWS, LG etc etc

But breeders have a lot of trouble finding names these days, because they have to be suitable for European use in most cases and not something that is very similar to or identical to another variety of the same species.

Hence the use of numbers in some varieties - which I think just leads to potential confusion.


Barry

 

[franklin]

But breeders have a lot of trouble finding names these days, because they have to be suitable for European use in most cases and not something that is very similar to or identical to another variety of the same species.

I shall offer these two for free:

KWS Waterloo?

DK Agincourt?

 

[Brisel]

Torch - prone to yellow rust!

Trafalgar? Armada?

 

[franklin]

How about....

 

[Wombat]

thats what i like about this place some threads make me genuinely chuckle