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Wheat variety choices next year?

Brisel

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Midlands
Do people up their seed rate for second wheats or stay the same?

Increase by at least 10% over what you'd drill a first wheat at for the same sowing period. The theory is that the take all will abort more tillers so you want a big well rooted canopy earlier. The irony is that the extra root biomass provides more food for the disease!
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Revelation looking good in the 1st W slot, still got 4 green leaves (y)
Grafton has a few blind sites but is the only variety to fit in front of OSR in the 3rd W slot (y)
Siskin, shy tillering, take all and fusarium ear blight. Like a hooker at a Man U stag do. (n)
- Think I'll replace it with Kerrin in the 2nd W slot, but will be watching the '17 HGCA results like a hawk as it's recommendation is on "limited data".

What a difference a couple of months makes.
After threatening to ditch it, we started drilling Siskin as a 1st wheat yesterday after it did surprisingly well from a thin stand with ear blight, to yield 3.8t as a 2nd wheat (average 2nd wheat is about 3.6t). It'll get an early dose of N to chivvy it on in the Spring.
3rd wheat will be Grafton to allow OSR in behind, yielded well this year too.
2nd 'wheat' slot next year will be Canyon ;).

Revelation also yielded well with a lovely bold sample, but being 'soft' it's being dropped to allow a single 'hard' bulk for the 17 harvest, which frees up a bay for the Canyon.
I'll keep an eye out for Kerrin, Shabras and Freiston, but for this year it's a case of 'better the devil you know'.
 

Qman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Derby
Yes, dropping JB Diego after many years and switching to Graham. In all the local trials i have seen results for it out performed Diego.

JB did a tonne/acre better than the very disappointing Graham for one of my customers. Both were first wheats, Graham doesn't tiller very well.
 

FarmerBruce

Member
Location
Yorkshire
What a difference a couple of months makes.
After threatening to ditch it, we started drilling Siskin as a 1st wheat yesterday after it did surprisingly well from a thin stand with ear blight, to yield 3.8t as a 2nd wheat (average 2nd wheat is about 3.6t). It'll get an early dose of N to chivvy it on in the Spring.
3rd wheat will be Grafton to allow OSR in behind, yielded well this year too.
2nd 'wheat' slot next year will be Canyon ;).

Revelation also yielded well with a lovely bold sample, but being 'soft' it's being dropped to allow a single 'hard' bulk for the 17 harvest, which frees up a bay for the Canyon.
I'll keep an eye out for Kerrin, Shabras and Freiston, but for this year it's a case of 'better the devil you know'.

What seed rate you drilling the Siskin?
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
What seed rate you drilling the Siskin?
Variable rate, but given this years shy tillering I've raised the minimum rate up to 300 seeds m/2, with the upper rate set at 450 seeds to account for some brick clay / slugs (assuming 65% survival = 300 plants).

I only used Modus on headlands this year, but i'll use it on every acre next season just for fear.
 

FarmerBruce

Member
Location
Yorkshire
Variable rate, but given this years shy tillering I've raised the minimum rate up to 300 seeds m/2, with the upper rate set at 450 seeds to account for some brick clay / slugs (assuming 65% survival = 300 plants).

I only used Modus on headlands this year, but i'll use it on every acre next season just for fear.

Be very careful. Our Siskin drilled last year 1st crop drilled 22nd September at 280 seeds was a horrible flat mess come harvest
 

PSQ

Member
Arable Farmer
Be very careful. Our Siskin drilled last year 1st crop drilled 22nd September at 280 seeds was a horrible flat mess come harvest
Thanks for the heads up.
What was the nature of the lodging?
I.e. Was it root lodging, 'eye spot', or just leggy with thin straw and snapped over at the base?
Finally, did it tiller well, or was it a 'bit thin' going into stem extension?
 

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Webinar: Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer 2024 -26th Sept

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On Thursday 26th September, we’re holding a webinar for farmers to go through the guidance, actions and detail for the expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer. This was planned for end of May, but had to be delayed due to the general election. We apologise about that.

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