Who can tell me about JD459

[Dave W]

I’ve got an immaculate late 459 that’s gone out of time for previous owner. Going to need needles and frame plus both knotters frames. And probably other bits by time it’s done.
I’ve bought another 459 with the intention of it becoming a donor but really it’s a bit too tidy to break.

So my question is will any JD baler do as a donor (456 etc) or would it need to be a 459?

the donor is 1987 I think and newer one 2002. I was surprised they were made over that length of time

 

[Exfarmer]

I’ve got an immaculate late 459 that’s gone out of time for previous owner. Going to need needles and frame plus both knotters frames. And probably other bits by time it’s done.
I’ve bought another 459 with the intention of it becoming a donor but really it’s a bit too tidy to break.

So my question is will any JD baler do as a donor (456 etc) or would it need to be a 459?

the donor is 1987 I think and newer one 2002. I was surprised they were made over that length of time

Think they were made far more recent

 

[Dave W]

Think they were made far more recent

Yes 459 is the most recent model and only created production in last couple years. I just didn’t know they started pre 87

 

[L P]

I’ve got an immaculate late 459 that’s gone out of time for previous owner. Going to need needles and frame plus both knotters frames. And probably other bits by time it’s done.
I’ve bought another 459 with the intention of it becoming a donor but really it’s a bit too tidy to break.

So my question is will any JD baler do as a donor (456 etc) or would it need to be a 459?

the donor is 1987 I think and newer one 2002. I was surprised they were made over that length of time

Go on john deere parts advisor online, you can get part numbers and cross reference between the models.

 

[Mark C]

456a and 450 very similar , same knotters, ram etc. 459 faster ram speed and wider pickup. 466 is an oddball as has a bigger chamber.

 

[Dave W]

Go on john deere parts advisor online, you can get part numbers and cross reference between the models.

I’ll look. Never used it as don’t have much to do with Deere

 

[Dave W]

456a and 450 very similar , same knotters, ram etc. 459 faster ram speed and wider pickup. 466 is an oddball as has a bigger chamber.

I’m only really interested in the knotting department

 

[L P]

I’ll look. Never used it as don’t have much to do with Deere

Is very handy and cross references. Hopefully a guru will have a straight yes or no for you

 

[L P]

Knotters Cross reference, both st35574

 

[Dave W]

Knotters Cross reference, both st35574

Thank you

 

[L P]

Dc17471 needle frame is common too

 

[L P]

Dc17471 needle frame is common too

This is to 456a btw

 

[Dave W]

This is to 456a btw

Thanks. I may look for a rotten 456 then. 459 donor a bit too good to break

 

[L P]

Thanks. I may look for a rotten 456 then. 459 don’t a bit too good to break

There's a lovely 459 next door that's suffered the same fate as yours else I'd put you in touch...a new knotter is a mere £2800, needle frame not so bad at £800. No idea how bad your needles are but you can press them straight from some fair angles if you have a good one as a pattern.

 

[Dave W]

There's a lovely 459 next door that's suffered the same fate as yours else I'd put you in touch...a new knotter is a mere £2800, needle frame not so bad at £800. No idea how bad your needles are but you can press them straight from some fair angles if you have a good one as a pattern.

I’m going to say they are just beyond pressing straight

 

[Dave W]

There's a lovely 459 next door that's suffered the same fate as yours else I'd put you in touch...a new knotter is a mere £2800, needle frame not so bad at £800. No idea how bad your needles are but you can press them straight from some fair angles if you have a good one as a pattern.

At those prices a donor baler is a no brainier

 

[carbonfibre farmer]

At those prices a donor baler is a no brainier

Have you tried Mr whizz? He seems to have most bits.

 

[Dave W]

Have you tried Mr whizz? He seems to have most bits.

He’s fetching some bits from me so was going to bend his ear yes. Still think a donor is the way to go as there will be other bits I’ll need

 

[spider mike]

Try baler spares, we needed a new sweeper arm for ours and a few other little bits and pieces.
The lad that looked after it ordered the bits from the dealer. When it was delivered the delivery sheet had the prices on think the bare arm was over 500 then with the other bits on top it was nearly 1000.
Got everything we needed from baler spares for 350