Winter barley how early

[Farmer Dod]

Always scared me the "recommended" seed rate for Volume when we used to grow it.

 

[YorkshireAndrew]

End of September here is early enough round here .

 

[Clive]

Wrong, Clive don't get these problems!

No I do have sterile Broome !

 

[Farmer Dod]

No I do have sterile Broome !

Bit of a contradiction in terms "sterile brome"- in our thankfully limited experience it is any but sterile and seems to multiply at phenomenal rates.

 

[spikeislander]

They are drilling barley in "ambridge"

 

[gone up the hill]

Am going to drill on Monday hopefully, starting at 100 s/m2 (about 50kg/ha)

Far far too early!!!!... you must love spending money on chemical's and enjoy spraying crops is all I can think of to justify drilling so early....

Last week of Sept is plenty early enough... just drill at 85 kilo's/ acre...

 

[eagleye]

I would go for volume or quadra hybrid barley as it can withstand the wet and cold better, less than 200 seeds/m2 should be enough at this early stage. Low seed rates not a problem for hybrid, but needs nitrogen early to get growth in spring and must be given plenty of feeding to get the best from it. consider a secure dressing against aphids as bydv most likely with very early sowing. Pesonally we are not going to sow till end october on our dry kindly ground but what you descriibe is a different ball game. good luck

 

[shakerator]

What about the volunteer oats? Surely need couple of chits?

axial / avadex / ctu (oops its banned)

 

[Brisel]

CTU is still ok as Hekla/Buckler/Kula with DFF (if you have it in stock).

 

[jon9000]

Is anyone buying volume this year... With barley around £100 quid?!

 

[Clive]

Is anyone buying volume this year... With barley around £100 quid?!

Home saving (tower) seed straight from the heap, not even going to dress it

 

[B&B Pig Man]

Home saving (tower) seed straight from the heap, not even going to dress it

Exactly what I'm doing with my tower.

 

[bobk]

Home saving (tower) seed straight from the heap, not even going to dress it

I thought you were growing barley for seed ?

 

[Clive]

I thought you were growing barley for seed ?

No contract that I'm happy with available next year unfortunately

I'm just going to keep a small area in my rotation to spread harvest and risk bit and I think it can perform better than a wheat with lower growing costs on some of my lightest and poorest land

 

[B&B Pig Man]

No contract that I'm happy with available next year unfortunately

I'm just going to keep a small area in my rotation to spread harvest and risk bit and I think it can perform better than a wheat with lower growing costs on some of my lightest and poorest land

I can't find a decent seed contract either - premiums just too low.
Not enough c2 demand apparently.

 

[DRC]

I can't find a decent seed contract either - premiums just too low.
Not enough c2 demand apparently.

I thought these high yielding barleys were going to replace. 2nd wheats .what are people growing next year. Must admit , I haven't bought any wheat seed yet .

 

[B&B Pig Man]

I thought these high yielding barleys were going to replace. 2nd wheats .what are people growing next year. Must admit , I haven't bought any wheat seed yet .

Not sure......

Not growing any wheat here next year - WB / WOSR / WB / Spr Beans is my new planned rotation.

 

[Clive]

I thought these high yielding barleys were going to replace. 2nd wheats .what are people growing next year. Must admit , I haven't bought any wheat seed yet .

I think the seed trade is struggling - farmers are just sowing from the heap

 

[Brisel]

Is anyone buying volume this year... With barley around £100 quid?!

Yes. The extra yield more than covers the additional variable costs. I work on profit margin, not just the end price.

 

[jon9000]

Can you get the bushel right? Always seams a bit thin to me