Winter triticale.

[Manny]

Does anyone on here grow winter triticale and if so what sort of seed rates do you plant at please? I've been asked to plant some for a friend but they only have enough seed at the moment for 125kg/ha or 1cwt/ac old money which sounds quite low to me.

 

[robbie]

I don't know about the winter stuff, I'd have said it needs to be similar to wheat but that's just my assumption but I do know the spring stuff doesnt tiller so that needs to be laddled on thick.

 

[Simon Chiles]

Does anyone on here grow winter triticale and if so what sort of seed rates do you plant at please? I've been asked to plant some for a friend but they only have enough seed at the moment for 125kg/ha or 1cwt/ac old money which sounds quite low to me.

It’s a bit early to be sowing winter triticale, you ought to wait a couple of weeks at least otherwise it’ll be too far ahead in the Spring and tun the risk of late frost damage to the ears.
1cwt is a bit low, I’d go at 1.5cwt.

 

[Manny]

Thanks for the replys. The grower is new to arable farming and is being lead by someone who doesn't know much more.

 

[deleted user 837354]

It will depend on the TGW. I cannot for the life of me remember the recommended sowing rate in seeds/m2 but I would say try to avoid sowing it too late and definitely avoid sowing it into clart- it doesn't do mud like wheat will. It needs good conditions IME.

Every time I grew it triticale seemed to be a bit sluggish over winter but in the spring it can be raring to grow.

 

[warksfarmer]

Ive always been told 150kg in the last week of September.

 

[ZXR17]

Grew some Agostini as a forage crop for a neighbour . Drilled 160 kg ha on the 7th October , yielded well but looked a bit thin as though it needed a higher seed rate . I think @ Simon Chiles has a fair bit of experience growing it .

 

[average farmer]

Grew some Agostini as a forage crop for a neighbour . Drilled 160 kg ha on the 7th October , yielded well but looked a bit thin as though it needed a higher seed rate . I think @ Simon Chiles has a fair bit of experience growing it .

going at 195kg just how it worked with bags and it’s going on a bit of light land. Will drill next week if it dries up .

 

[J 1177]

Mine was sown at 12.5 stone to the acre (195kg ha) on the 24th of September. It's peeking through today.

 

[Agriimark]

Started drilling our first field thursday, put 27 acres in with variable rate, average rate 167kg ha for field. Interested to see how it comes up.

 

[steveR]

It will depend on the TGW. I cannot for the life of me remember the recommended sowing rate in seeds/m2 but I would say try to avoid sowing it too late and definitely avoid sowing it into clart- it doesn't do mud like wheat will. It needs good conditions IME.

Every time I grew it triticale seemed to be a bit sluggish over winter but in the spring it can be raring to grow.

Grew a lot years back, on some very light and some thin soils, all rented land. Perfect crop for the soil type, other than I struggled to find a market initially!!

Used to go in early October (after the WB was drilled) at around 130-140kg/ha and creep up rates if I got late. Never found it really suited our heavy land when I tried it once... just used to grow wheat!

 

[Simon Chiles]

It grows ok on heavy soils as well. Damaged ears were caused by late frost, I must admit though that the total damage from frost has never yet amounted to much.

 

[Manny]

Well it won't be getting planted any time soon here now since getting over 80mm of rain in the last few days.

 

[Simon Chiles]

Well it won't be getting planted any time soon here now since getting over 80mm of rain in the last few days.

By the time it’s dried up it will be just about perfect timing. We’ve had just shy of 100mm and I think it’s done me a favour by stopping me becoming impatient.

 

[Manny]

Perfect timing for cereals around here is in by 12-14 Oct. If it is dry for the next week we may get back on but it's raining again already.

 

[steveR]

Well it won't be getting planted any time soon here now since getting over 80mm of rain in the last few days.

Wow...! ONLY, 51mm here over the past 7 days. 40 of that on Saturday....

 

[czechmate]

It grows ok on heavy soils as well. Damaged ears were caused by late frost, I must admit though that the total damage from frost has never yet amounted to much.

In this area of mixed farming on poorer kind of ground and not such good cereal climate, triticale is by far the most widely grown cereal. I sowed one field a bit early and it’s a bit of a frost pocket - I didn’t even harvest the amount of grain I sowed. I don’t think of sowing it early anymore

 

[Mr Charisma]

Wow...! ONLY, 51mm here over the past 7 days. 40 of that on Saturday....

People quote amount of rain fall they have but it all comes down to how your soil drains , dad came from Moulton in Northants , he said that they could be drilling the day after a inch of rain , he moved to a area where a inch of rain can stop any land work for many days I live just down the road from Manny and know he is s a couple if years into his dd journey but I would think he will be polishing his mzuri for a fair few days yet

 

[warksfarmer]

Only had 70mm here over the last 7-10 days. Drilled fields (cover crops) are walking fine and would take a sprayer. Lightly cultivated soils are wet but would change quickly after a couple of dry days.

I wouldn’t want any land that had been sumo’ed or solo’ed at the minute. Less is more and stubbles are safer unless you can plough and combi drill on light soils.