Winter Wheat Planting

[MrNoo]

So barley sub £100/t then, dry spring leading to drought summer, not a lot of fat on the bone there unless you go cheap and cheerful. Seriously questioning drilling some cover when dry enough and then plough down ready for a decent 1st wheat next Autumn. Some of my heavy fields I feel that this is the way to go.
Walking this morning, some planted fields (20th Nov) it is just poking through the ground in places but there is an awful lot of rotted seed amongst it and that's on some of the driest ground I've got.

 

[Cowcorn]

still the maths says 50% not planted
so half of 1.8 million ha gives at best an 8 million tonne crop or looking at the crops round here 6 million tonnes
then with 1.7 million ha barley will give around 9 to 10 million tonnes spring barley

a lot of the barley will get fed
It will be priced at a level to be used

Mills will use barley in rations, displacing wheat in dairy and cattle rations as it will be cheaper but not really by much . Tighter coarse grain stocks will drag up the barley price even if it is plentiful . The big unknown is what imported maize grain will be as it is what feed wheat has to compete with .
Maybe the UK will be able to export barley tarrif free over to lreland if Boris gets a good trade deal we are big importers of english barley and net importers of grain overall. If it all goes to hell in a handcart then i guess the annaul port protest by
IRISH grain growers about cheap english barley undermining local grain will have to change to cheap French grain ......... Have to make new placards then instead of dusting off the old ones !!!

 

[Renaultman]

So barley sub £100/t then, dry spring leading to drought summer, not a lot of fat on the bone there unless you go cheap and cheerful. Seriously questioning drilling some cover when dry enough and then plough down ready for a decent 1st wheat next Autumn. Some of my heavy fields I feel that this is the way to go.
Walking this morning, some planted fields (20th Nov) it is just poking through the ground in places but there is an awful lot of rotted seed amongst it and that's on some of the driest ground I've got.

I think barley will be twenty quid less than wheat. If wheat is £160 barley will be £140.00 mills will change their formulations to use more barley IMHO

 

[Renaultman]

Mills will use barley in rations, displacing wheat in dairy and cattle rations as it will be cheaper but not really by much . Tighter coarse grain stocks will drag up the barley price even if it is plentiful . The big unknown is what imported maize grain will be as it is what feed wheat has to compete with .
Maybe the UK will be able to export barley tarrif free over to lreland if Boris gets a good trade deal we are big importers of english barley and net importers of grain overall. If it all goes to hell in a handcart then i guess the annaul port protest by
IRISH grain growers about cheap english barley undermining local grain will have to change to cheap French grain ......... Have to make new placards then instead of dusting off the old ones !!!

Sorry should have read this before I posted

 

[willy]

What is the W barley normal cropped area vs 2019/20 ?

 

[Clive]

Just changed my vote to 51-75% having got a bit more done 2 weeks ago, how much of that will make the combine remains to be seen however

Won't try again now until February if we get a dry week we will get 100% drilled


Thank god for front hoppers, big Michelin tyres, lightweight tractors and Borgault VOS points !

 

[shakerator]

So barley sub £100/t then, dry spring leading to drought summer, not a lot of fat on the bone there unless you go cheap and cheerful. Seriously questioning drilling some cover when dry enough and then plough down ready for a decent 1st wheat next Autumn. Some of my heavy fields I feel that this is the way to go.
Walking this morning, some planted fields (20th Nov) it is just poking through the ground in places but there is an awful lot of rotted seed amongst it and that's on some of the driest ground I've got.

There is no logic in barley going below £100/t

 

[bankrupt]

lightweight tractors . . . . . !

 

[Clive]

when I used to have a 26t tractor 8.5t is light !

 

[bankrupt]

when I used to have a 26t tractor 8.5t is light !

I drew the line at 7.5t.

Forty years ago here we ran a 3.5t SAME Tiger on 28.5 Trelleborgs which easily did 100 acres/ day with a 6m Tive.

Seem to have being going backwards ever since,

 

[Clive]

I drew the line at 7.5t.

Forty years ago here we ran a 3.5t SAME Tiger on 28.5 Trelleborgs which easily did 100 acres/ day with a 6m Tive.

Seem to have being going backwards ever since,

8.5t on 710/42's low-pressure Michelins treads light and is the lightest we can get away with whilst running enough power to cope with a 12 / 36 CTF system. I don't think we could reduce the impact of machine weight any further than that until the robots come now

 

[Renaultman]

Syndicate have been filling the feeders up with a grey fergie and transport box. It really cuts in

 

[Hindsight]

I drew the line at 7.5t.

Forty years ago here we ran a 3.5t SAME Tiger on 28.5 Trelleborgs which easily did 100 acres/ day with a 6m Tive.

Seem to have being going backwards ever since,

A few weeks ago when there was still a desire to drill wheat locally I waxed lyrically about a Ford 7600 on Terra Tires coupled to a 4 m Carier drill. As I looked at a CAT765 attached to a 6 metre Vaderstad. I truly have lost the plot! How times change.

 

[bankrupt]

Another 20mm here, so far, today.

Which means that we shall now have finally to write off all the patching up of our early October planted wheats here, which we did in late November.

Fortunately, this leaves us with yet another good window of 6 weeks or so in which to do it all again, hopefully third time lucky this time, before "End Jan"

 

[Steevo]

Forecast for tonight/tomorrow not looking clever. Set to rain heavily right through til dusk tomorrow.

 

[bobk]

Wheat will be £130 or £190 by July . bookmark me .

 

[bankrupt]

Wheat will be £130 or £190 by July . bookmark me .

Right on, bobk.

£130 July '20
£190 July '21

 

[farmerm]

There is a chance of January being dryer.... there is also a change it will continue to pee down 6 days a week.

 

[bankrupt]

Another 20mm here, so far, today.

Now decided we shall have to postpone "End Jan" for a few more days.

 

[4course]

have now ordered some spring rape , on the basis that im trying to fool the weather gods into thinking I dont give a --wether it dries up or not. Its as wet as its ever been here and cant get more than 48 hrs dry never mind a week or 10 days thats needed so given up looking till well into new year . Last nights rain has filled the ponds up in places ive never had water stood this long