World market are we kidding ourselves???

[Bossfarmer]

Those supporting a subs free ag ought to read this:

http://www.bahs.org.uk/AGHR/ARTICLES/22n1a3.pdf

has everyone read it?

 

[Hilly]

has everyone read it?

I cant read.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Plenty near me got 2000 sheep and make a better job than alot with alot less thats for sure.

is it one man to 2000 sheep though like many in nz? common sense dictates the same man will make a better job of a smaller number as more time/attention is given to them/ any issues noticed/rectified quicker less losses

 

[Hilly]

is it one man to 2000 sheep though like many in nz? common sense dictates the same man will make a better job of a smaller number as more time/attention is given to them/ any issues noticed/rectified quicker less losses

Lots running 2000 ewes single handed with a bit of self employed help now and again some of the best flocks about.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Lots running 2000 ewes single handed with a bit of self employed help now and again some of the best flocks about.

your missing the point theres always exceptions, if you give less time and attention to livestock what happens???

 

[Hilly]

is it one man to 2000 sheep though like many in nz? common sense dictates the same man will make a better job of a smaller number as more time/attention is given to them/ any issues noticed/rectified quicker less losses

All depends big differance between pro active and re active.

 

[Hilly]

your missing the point theres always exceptions, if you give less time and attention to livestock what happens???

They look after themselves ? some breeds need more attention than others keep a high maintenance breed what happens.?

 

[Hilly]

your missing the point theres always exceptions, if you give less time and attention to livestock what happens???

How often dose a man in the hills of the lake district check his sheep ?

 

[Bossfarmer]

They look after themselves ? some breeds need more attention than others keep a high maintenance breed what happens.?

your dodging the question im aware some are lower maintenance many are not though and even the lower maintenance ones benefit from greater attention

 

[Hilly]

your dodging the question im aware some are lower maintenance many are not though and even the lower maintenance ones benefit from greater attention

When sub goes are you going to lie down and go bankrupt and sleep on a park bench ?

 

[Bossfarmer]

How often dose a man in the hills of the lake district check his sheep ?

so your advice is dont bother checking or looking after stock it wount reduce mortality they dont need it, great

 

[Hilly]

so your advice is dont bother checking or looking after stock it wount reduce mortality they dont need it, great

How many do you save in the summer checking everyday ? or twice a day ?

 

[Bossfarmer]

When sub goes are you going to lie down and go bankrupt and sleep on a park bench ?

no im much better placed than most so will scrape by but the industry will be ruined and many good hardworking farmers will go out of business for imports to replace them

 

[Hilly]

no im much better placed than most so will scrape by but the industry will be ruined and many good hardworking farmers will go out of business for imports to replace them

Everyone thinks they will be the golden one who scrapes by, you wont cos your mind is closed to fresh ideas.

 

[Bossfarmer]

How many do you save in the summer checking everyday ? or twice a day ?

always the odd one on their back in the run up to lambing and i can sort any issues immediately before they get worse and affect profitability, my sheep are in fields round the steading so i can check them regularly

 

[Hilly]

always the odd one on their back in the run up to lambing and i can sort any issues immediately before they get worse and affect profitability, my sheep are in fields round the steading so i can check them regularly

Keep another breed that dosen`t get stuck on backs then.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

your missing the point theres always exceptions, if you give less time and attention to livestock what happens???

They generally do a hell of a lot better.
And cheaper.

Do you not see that it simply breeds unproductiveness into livestock, all the f**king around that is "necessary"?
An animal needs a lot more than 'a nice head' no matter how much pride you take in your work.

It needs to work for you, same as any other asset, or it's a liability.

 

[Bossfarmer]

Everyone thinks they will be the golden one who scrapes by, you wont cos your mind is closed to fresh ideas.

your talking nonsense now fresh ideas??/ first thing i did when i took over was develop a steading/ clear debt and buy another farm then develop the steading on it to buy another block thats hardly run of the mill farming, what you done?

 

[Hilly]

always the odd one on their back in the run up to lambing and i can sort any issues immediately before they get worse and affect profitability, my sheep are in fields round the steading so i can check them regularly

the more moddycoddled you make them the moddycoddled they become.

 

[Hilly]

your talking nonsense now fresh ideas??/ first thing i did when i took over was develop a steading/ clear debt and buy another farm then develop the steading on it to buy another block thats hardly run of the mill farming, what you done?

Personal id say it was run of the mill.