Would you buy an electric vehicle POLL

[Bloders]

Pfft.
Once you’ve got over their only trick of fast acceleration (whilst draining the battery at an alarming rate), what else is there? You can’t modify or tune them, no one knows what their secondhand value is going to be as battery life hasn’t been determined, it’s highly likely an alternative fuel will be along in five years that will make EVs look silly, they are wickedly expensive to buy making their running costs irrelevant as you won’t recover the differential between them and an ICE model …

If it already has the fast acceleration performance, why would you want to tune it?
People tune cars to go faster, but it already is?

You can however play with the softare to change perfromance characteristics.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Of course it does … but there is usually a petrol station within a cockstride with functioning pumps

Until 2030 at least.......

 

[Bald Rick]

Incredible handling due to the low c.o.g.? Autopilot feature? Self parking? Genuine four wheel drive with separate motors for each wheel?

Fairly sure you can - with a laptop though and no need for any of those spanner things.

Why would you care if leasing it/ planning to sell in 3-5 years?

Highly unlikely you mean - not for a decade at least and far longer for any credible alternative to be scalable.

Like for like, not true.

- 10-20% heavier than conventional cars leading to excessive tyre and brake wear. Autonomous .. yeah, right. You still have to have a hand on the wheel currently and do you really trust it? Lot of conventional cars have self parking

- bit like playing with yourself if you “tune” via a laptop. Just making a hair dryer in to a spin dryer and wrecking your range at the same time. Some of us actually like mechanical things and the aural sound of an ICE

- I strongly suspect that secondhand values will be poor once people cotton on to battery degradation. £16,000 for a new Tesla battery pack for a model 3? You can buy x3 recon engines for that …

- boffins will be actively working on better propulsion systems. It could happen very fast

- there is no argument that EVs are stupid money. £60-120,000 for an electric X3 as against £30-70,000 for a conventional one. You’d never recover the difference making running costs an irrelevance

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Some of us actually like the aural sound of an ICE

That affection may become rather expensive in future.......

I forsee fake "V8 engine under acceleration" sound systems being the accessory du jour for some on EVs in future

 

[Bald Rick]

That affection may become rather expensive in future.......

I forsee fake "V8 engine under acceleration" sound systems being the accessory du jour for some on EVs in future

I have no intention of leaving any money other than for my funeral expenses.

 

[Paddington]

That affection may become rather expensive in future.......

I forsee fake "V8 engine under acceleration" sound systems being the accessory du jour for some on EVs in future

The (faulty) suspension pump on my Disco howls like a rally car when going down a bumpy road, even at only 20mph, I've never thought of it as a selling point.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

- 10-20% heavier than conventional cars leading to excessive tyre and brake wear. Autonomous .. yeah, right. You still have to have a hand on the wheel currently and do you really trust it? Lot of conventional cars have self parking

- bit like playing with yourself if you “tune” via a laptop. Just making a hair dryer in to a spin dryer and wrecking your range at the same time. Some of us actually like mechanical things and the aural sound of an ICE

- I strongly suspect that secondhand values will be poor once people cotton on to battery degradation. £16,000 for a new Tesla battery pack for a model 3? You can buy x3 recon engines for that …

- boffins will be actively working on better propulsion systems. It could happen very fast

- there is no argument that EVs are stupid money. £60-120,000 for an electric X3 as against £30-70,000 for a conventional one. You’d never recover the difference making running costs an irrelevance

Excessive brake wear?
You really don't know much about evs it appears.

 

[Bald Rick]

Excessive brake wear?
You really don't know much about evs it appears.

I will concede that regenerative braking protects pad wear but £500 for a Tesla exhaust is taking the pee …..

 

[kiwi pom]

I will concede that regenerative braking protects pad wear but £500 for a Tesla exhaust is taking the pee …..

When you look at all the threads on here about Land Rover products that fail every 1000 miles, ford pick up engines that lock solid for fun, Isuzu pickups that keep filling their oil sumps up etc Do you think electric cars are going to be worse?

I think the second hand value worry is a fair one, we really don't know what's going to happen yet. Its all very well saying "what's the worry if you're only leasing for 3 years" but if the vehicles only worth 2 quid at the end of it you'll end up paying more each month.
I think people will find a way to run old ones cheaply though just as they do today.

 

[bobk]

The voting is somewhat at odds with the comments ...............

The only folk that like them are the ones daft enough to buy one

 

[ollandroverman]

The voting is somewhat at odds with the comments ...............

The only folk that like them are the ones open minded enough to buy one

Fixed your comment.

 

[chickens and wheat]

Daft enought to buy one, But pleasently suprised

 

[br jones]

would have one tommorow but far too expensive

 

[Robt]

When you disagree with Bobk…

 

[mountfarm]

Quite fancy the look of the new electric Polaris utv, 110 hp…….the sheep will never know what hit them

We had a demo of the older elec version and it was woeful. Battery power disappears if run at full speed, towing or carrying significant weight. The demo was for a week. We gave up after 2 days.

 

[Poorbuthappy]

We had a demo of the older elec version and it was woeful. Battery power disappears if run at full speed, towing or carrying significant weight. The demo was for a week. We gave up after 2 days.

The old 1 didn't have a very good reputation and was a bit of a toy tbh.
This new 1 looks a different beast altogether and I shall be interested to try it next summer when it allegedly arrives.

 

[hally]

The old 1 didn't have a very good reputation and was a bit of a toy tbh.
This new 1 looks a different beast altogether and I shall be interested to try it next summer when it allegedly arrives.

Me too

 

[john 650]

That’s the same price as a Q5 40 TDI Quattro S-Line S Tronic , 36 months, 15k miles per year. 3 payments down on a business lease. So yes it looks more realistic albeit the Q5 is a bigger car.

That's without factoring in the cost of the BIK tax of the Q5, which if it's a company car (assuming so as a business lease), would be over £500/month now I'd expect- and the main reason I've gone EV.

Q5 is much bigger mind, as you mentioned.

My concern at the moment is the predicted rise in electric costs. We've a fixed rate deal at home, which comes to an end in May- and will see our cost per mile go from 2p- and almost double.... Still no where near the 15p per mile the diesel predecessor used to cost, but has got me thinking about PV again....

 

[roscoe erf]

Here is a long story I hope you’ll enjoy
I have an electic van on lease due to be returned next week. It’s been in the garage having some cosmetic work done. It went in with 33 mile range on the battery, but they drained the battery to 5 miles.
Now for two years we have used public charging points as its £1000 to get a port fitted at home and my home isn’t suitable as cables would be over the pavement.
Anyway, just make it to the charger and of course its not working. I ring technical support, they say will take up to 40 hours to fix.
So I have no choice but to leave it at morrisons as if I tried to get to the next charger 3 miles away and break down, the only way to retrieve an electric vehicle is a tow truck.
The techical support said…..’maybe you should call the tow truck then’
Now luckily I have bought a 2016 year old larger Renault Traffic to replace this pointless van, (bought before I knew about this scheme) which is now stuck (not my fault as the guy in the garage sat in the van and drained it to get warm, not for any work)
I have no regrets about buying this ‘environmentally unfriendly van’ and I will NEVER pay this absurd charge when this vehicle is required for my business. The one I have purchased was £13500 and Burnham and co are trying to tell me
Its not useable.
Tell you what isn’t useable…electric vehicles. We have not advanced at all in two years. Bloody joke the whole thing!!

 

[bobk]

Farage is with me on this subject , definitely the future but no infrastructure . maybe in 30 years