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Wreckers!!

miniconnect

Member
Location
Argyll
the forestry lads know how to bog kit but i wounder what caused it to slid off the landing at the top, ps who ever did the guarding did a good job
It looks like the earth slipped away from the rock, don't know the full story, only really guessing.
Wonder how much that cost? Insurance cover it maybe?

Impressive operation though, very professional.
It would need to be insurance, the hourly rate for all the men and gear would be frightening! I'd imagine it would be more than the value of the machine anyway....
 

Mur Huwcun

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
It looks like the earth slipped away from the rock, don't know the full story, only really guessing.It would need to be insurance, the hourly rate for all the men and gear would be frightening! I'd imagine it would be more than the value of the machine anyway....

To be realistically though unless the machine had been running on its side and seized then the excavator could of righted it and it would of tracked out then.
 

miniconnect

Member
Location
Argyll
To be realistically though unless the machine had been running on its side and seized then the excavator could of righted it and it would of tracked out then.
It looked like they did have it running, it appeared to be pushing itself back up the hill, with the winches helping it. Then it got itself onto the lorry at the end. Machine appeared fairly un damaged.
I get what your saying tho, getting it upright and running would be the most difficult bit, but you'd also want something big and heavy attached to a big winch to make sure nobody got killed going back up the hill, I expect the operator used most of the luck the first time! Throw in every rusk assessment and method statement you can think of, it was never going to be cheap...
 

Mur Huwcun

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North West Wales
I didn’t see the end then where it was loaded. We won’t go into detail of using two excavators chained together to get up a hill, one holds the other while it re positions the boom and bucket.......
 

sawdust

Member
Location
Argyll
I didn’t see the end then where it was loaded. We won’t go into detail of using two excavators chained together to get up a hill, one holds the other while it re positions the boom and bucket.......

Okay dokay,
The real story is...
The digger based harvester landed at the bottom of the hill operatorless, he was building a skyline winch tree landing area when the saturated ground gave way under the weight of the machine and the repeated constant tracking back n forth in the one area, as soon as he felt it slide he jumped clear and watch it disappear down the hill, ground was/is a thin mix of peat and red clay on top of rock, the hill side is probably between 40° and 60° slope.
Recover; Cat digger was winched down the hill by the wrecker, to create a smoother track for the extraction of the harvester, then once the digger was pulled level it as left for a day for oil levels to settle and mechanic to check over before initial start up, then the wrecker pulled the Cat back up then the harvester head was removed from the Daewoo sorry Doosan and winched up, then the Doosan was recovered as in the video. The recovery firm made the film, and I personally wouldn't use the word professional and them in the same sentence either...
 

Lofty1984

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South wales
Okay dokay,
The real story is...
The digger based harvester landed at the bottom of the hill operatorless, he was building a skyline winch tree landing area when the saturated ground gave way under the weight of the machine and the repeated constant tracking back n forth in the one area, as soon as he felt it slide he jumped clear and watch it disappear down the hill, ground was/is a thin mix of peat and red clay on top of rock, the hill side is probably between 40° and 60° slope.
Recover; Cat digger was winched down the hill by the wrecker, to create a smoother track for the extraction of the harvester, then once the digger was pulled level it as left for a day for oil levels to settle and mechanic to check over before initial start up, then the wrecker pulled the Cat back up then the harvester head was removed from the Daewoo sorry Doosan and winched up, then the Doosan was recovered as in the video. The recovery firm made the film, and I personally wouldn't use the word professional and them in the same sentence either...
Was the doosan damaged at all ?
 

Roy_H

Member
It reduces it - as it lessens the metal on metal contact - any particles of steel are in suspension in the oil or grease which provides a film buffer.

The oil or grease may attract other contaminants depending on the ground conditions - but they should be less hard than the steel.

Hardened Steel - 7.5 to 8 on Moh hardness scale
Granite/Quartz - 7 hardness
General road crap - less than 7 unless you are driving over powdered diamonds or silicon carbide etc

My 2p worth.
Teagle used to recommend that you put some grease on the hook when using their trailers.
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
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