WTF! Is my tractor dead?

[Sonoftheheir]

Fendt 412 2007 year approx 5000hrs.

Started over heating today, no warning noise just the radiator temp sign came on in the middle display square. I then note that the temp display Bar is in the red zone.

Anyway stopped in the field to let it cool down and stopped again on the way home.

Got back and blew out the air filter (not too bad) and the radiators at the front.

Thought maybe the radiator fluid must be low in the header tank? Could not see the level at all.

Could hear bubbling so thought maybe there isn’t much water in the tank, took the lid off and bam! Looks like all it’s guts have come out!

A brown creamy gunge! What the hell has happened? I’ve never seen it before.

Oil looks fine on the dip stick.

TIa

Gary

 

[ARW]

Head gasket!

 

[ridger]

That's what the compactor does on landfill site when something happens its liners, deutz engine

 

[PSQ]

Thanks to Corvid, It's not as if you can punt it on at a farm sale... (whistles to self).

 

[marcot]

A very bad case of diarrhoea!!! Has it eaten anything it shouldn't have?

 

[GeorgeK]

High pressure oil from backend or engine forced into cooling system through a failed oil to water cooler? I thought that was just John Deere's

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Head gasket!

That doesn’t sound good.

 

[Wombat]

Mixed the oil and water somehow, looks more than the headgasket from here. Looks like a leak and mix higher up the engine maybe one fo the coolers?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

The gunge all blobbed out when I unscrewed the header tank cap.

 

[Wombat]

Ah i would agree with George K and go with one of the coolers split and mixed the oil into the water

Either way get the tub of vaseline out

 

[Sonoftheheir]

Ah i would agree with George K and go with one of the coolers split and mixed the oil into the water

Is that a big job? Serious £?

Any way I can move it? As it’ll be in the way in the morning.

 

[ridger]

If the oil is still normal looking on dipstick it should be ok to move

 

[Wombat]

Is that a big job? Serious £?

Any way I can move it? As it’ll be in the way in the morning.

Not sure but you maybe lucky and its somthing much more simple. I wouldn't move it until someone had had a look over it.

 

[ridger]

What does backend oil look like?

 

[Sonoftheheir]

If the oil is still normal looking on dipstick it should be ok to move

Engine oil is spot on and looks clean.

 

[Sonoftheheir]

What does backend oil look like?

Will have a look after dinner ??

 

[Wombat]

Has the engine oil dropped at all? it doesn't take a massive amount of it to turn water like that. I think the oil coolers run on the pressure ( and it looks a bit more black like engine oil) side so i would suspect that has gone and popped the oil in the water as its a higher pressuren(its only an internet diagnosis though)

Edit just checked and the oil cooler is on the pressure side on most Deutz so i would go with thats gone internally

 

[ridger]

Might need to pump some out through a hydraulic pipe into a clear jug to get a good look

 

[Bill Turtle]

Possibly a water cooler for the engine oil failed internally. The oil is at higher pressure than the water so it gets forced into the coolant system.
if it’s a deutz 4 cylinder it’s a known problem, not too bad to replace. I have had it happen on two different merlo P40.7. Once under warranty and recently another one at ten years old.

 

[Smith31]

Sorry to hijack, was the tractor working under pressure? Anything you can think of that may have caused it to overheat, have one similiar so a bit worrying