YouTube Movie 🍿 I thought was excellent.

[delilah]

I really don't get the constant pops at China. We have asked them to manufacture our tat, they are doing so.
It's like chucking all your crap over the fence into next doors garden and then moaning about the neighbours.

 

[Mr Mackay]

I really don't get the constant pops at China. We have asked them to manufacture our tat, they are doing so.
It's like chucking all your crap over the fence into next doors garden and then moaning about the neighbours.

I remember going to an event about ten years ago and the question on Popmaster was - What is the most spoken language on the planet - and it was Mandarin !
I was genuinely suprised , but the image of Inn of the Sixth happiness and Chairman Mao , and a peasant nation , was soon displaced by a country zooming into the lead on most things ,and becoming the manufacturer of far too many ,it would seems!!
We are far too happy to allow them too ,and there are an awful lot of folk who just will rest on their laurels IMO

 

[DaveGrohl]

I lloked for it this aftie on YT and watched the first 10 mins. Search brought up a few debunks also. Trouble is, if I watch it I'll end up watching a debunk or two just for balance cos I'm like that. Obv it won't be the one with Chris Moonunit though....

The question is, do I really want to disappear down the rabbit hole and shorten my life? Last time I didi this was for that effing Gamechangers propaganda. I wasn't seen for weeks after...... The anger was strong in this one.

 

[orchard]

I lloked for it this aftie on YT and watched the first 10 mins. Search brought up a few debunks also. Trouble is, if I watch it I'll end up watching a debunk or two just for balance cos I'm like that. Obv it won't be the one with Chris Moonunit though....

The question is, do I really want to disappear down the rabbit hole and shorten my life? Last time I didi this was for that effing Gamechangers propaganda. I wasn't seen for weeks after...... The anger was strong in this one.

If you have the mental fortitude, watch it. It's rather despairing realising that combined with the carbon trading tricks, we're not getting very far, quickly.

 

[Av Gorritt]

My guess is download. If I'm wrong then I'm all out of suggestions.

Correct --D--down , L load , seems a reasonable shortcut to me , but there ya go , IYSWIM Doesn't matter now anyway , I've purchased the full 5 series boxed set from e bay , so it'll probably last me till Winter sets in -- or longer !

 

[DaveGrohl]

If you have the mental fortitude, watch it. It's rather despairing realising that combined with the carbon trading tricks, we're not getting very far, quickly.

I'm well aware that we're really doing next to nowt in reality and I would find the film interesting, I'm just loathe to spend over an hour and a half to be told in a painfully slow fashion a lot of stuff I may well know anyway. I'll ponder further.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

If you have the mental fortitude, watch it. It's rather despairing realising that combined with the carbon trading tricks, we're not getting very far, quickly.

I'm well aware that we're really doing next to nowt in reality and I would find the film interesting, I'm just loathe to spend over an hour and a half to be told in a painfully slow fashion a lot of stuff I may well know anyway. I'll ponder further.

It's a point I keep trying to make: Either we get serious now about all this (and GDP WILL FALL) or we should stop pretending and start adapting, fast.

There had been a direct rising connection between GDP growth and energy consumption, mostly from fossil fuels, since around 1800.

If we are serious then we must highly insulate all our buildings this decade. We must massively cut our energy use, flying must reduce drastically with all genuinely non-essential flying ceasing. Deforestation must stop dead. Every political policy must pass a stringent climate test.

If we're not willing to do these things then we should say so and get on with preparing for hotter and wilder weather. And prepare to abandon any urban areas below 5M above sea level.

It's hard choice time folks......

 

[delilah]

It's a point I keep trying to make: Either we get serious now about all this (and GDP WILL FALL) or we should stop pretending and start adapting, fast.

There had been a direct rising connection between GDP growth and energy consumption, mostly from fossil fuels, since around 1800.

If we are serious then we must highly insulate all our buildings this decade. We must massively cut our energy use, flying must reduce drastically with all genuinely non-essential flying ceasing. Deforestation must stop dead. Every political policy must pass a stringent climate test.

If we're not willing to do these things then we should say so and get on with preparing for hotter and wilder weather. And prepare to abandon any urban areas below 5M above sea level.

It's hard choice time folks......

Heathrow needs to be turned into a market garden to feed London. As it stands we are stuck at the 'lets ban plastic straws' level of action. As you say the gulf between what is needed and what we are doing is huge.

 

[czechmate]

It's a point I keep trying to make: Either we get serious now about all this (and GDP WILL FALL) or we should stop pretending and start adapting, fast.

There had been a direct rising connection between GDP growth and energy consumption, mostly from fossil fuels, since around 1800.

If we are serious then we must highly insulate all our buildings this decade. We must massively cut our energy use, flying must reduce drastically with all genuinely non-essential flying ceasing. Deforestation must stop dead. Every political policy must pass a stringent climate test.

If we're not willing to do these things then we should say so and get on with preparing for hotter and wilder weather. And prepare to abandon any urban areas below 5M above sea level.

It's hard choice time folks......

Its fierce wind that worries me more than water. I’m kind of sure that I will see a storm that’s takes all the roofs of buildings, takes down all trees, blows over cars... etc etc and that will be the end of life as I have known it

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Its fierce wind that worries me more than water. I’m kind of sure that I will see a storm that’s takes all the roofs of buildings, takes down all trees, blows over cars... etc etc and that will be the end of life as I have known it

We ain't seen nothing yet. The full fury of nature, unleashed, will finally teach folk the true meaning of the word "awesome".

Tropical storms are getting bigger, stronger and more frequent (caribbean hurricanes and Asian cyclones). Our big storms are virtually all leftovers from Caribbean ones.

 

[czechmate]

We ain't seen nothing yet. The full fury of nature, unleashed, will finally teach folk the true meaning of the word "awesome".

Tropical storms are getting bigger, stronger and more frequent (caribbean hurricanes and Asian cyclones). Our big storms are virtually all leftovers from Caribbean ones.

Exactly

 

[czechmate]

We ain't seen nothing yet. The full fury of nature, unleashed, will finally teach folk the true meaning of the word "awesome".

Tropical storms are getting bigger, stronger and more frequent (caribbean hurricanes and Asian cyclones). Our big storms are virtually all leftovers from Caribbean ones.

Not a storm, but just a couple of weeks back, a couple of villages in the Czech Republic had a tornado - completely wiped them out

 

[DaveGrohl]

It's a point I keep trying to make: Either we get serious now about all this (and GDP WILL FALL) or we should stop pretending and start adapting, fast.

There had been a direct rising connection between GDP growth and energy consumption, mostly from fossil fuels, since around 1800.

If we are serious then we must highly insulate all our buildings this decade. We must massively cut our energy use, flying must reduce drastically with all genuinely non-essential flying ceasing. Deforestation must stop dead. Every political policy must pass a stringent climate test.

If we're not willing to do these things then we should say so and get on with preparing for hotter and wilder weather. And prepare to abandon any urban areas below 5M above sea level.

It's hard choice time folks......

This what astonishes me about the ridiculous level of debate around climate change. The whole world is acting like Canute when we should be acting more like Noah. We aren't stopping this no matter what the "science" is behind it, all we can really do is adapt. So let's get on with it. As delilah says, no amount of deckchair shuffling is going to make a dent.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Not a storm, but just a couple of weeks back, a couple of villages in the Czech Republic had a tornado - completely wiped them out

I don't think that was even reported here in the UK.

 

[czechmate]

I don't think that was even reported here in the UK.

I wouldn’t think so. The wife (I don’t know why) for the last couple of years has taken to reading Czech news

 

[farmerfred86]

I cant see any drastic tackling of climate change until we talk about and deal with population growth, and that means talking about economic growth too.

 

[Hilly]

Everyone wants climate change tackled until it affects them, it’s ok if it affects someone else though, Thor lies a problem along with the lies told