Zerotill OSR drilling 2017

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield

Too wet for the combine today so got the OSR drill going.

Something quite satisfying about the cheapness of this !

10k to buy and modify the drill to ultra low disturbance and improve manoverability

12m Harvest controlled traffic - straw chopped

3L of genetic glyphosate - £1.85/ L

Free Muck

Farm saved seed 32p /kg

Farm brewed liquid AS 7.2p/L

Fuel use 3.7L/ha average


doing a cracking job

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Too wet for the combine today so got the OSR drill going.

Something quite satisfying about the cheapness of this !

10k to buy and modify the drill to ultra low disturbance and improve manoverability

12m Harvest controlled traffic - straw chopped

3L of genetic glyphosate - £1.85/ L

Free Muck

Farm saved seed 32p /kg

Farm brewed liquid AS 7.2p/L

Fuel use 3.7L/ha average


doing a cracking job

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1 plaswad to clear up. Otherwise, very good!
 

tw15

Member
Location
DORSET
Brilliant , that's what I call economic establishment why over complicate it keep it simple a nd their might just be a bigger margin in it.. We all get told to do this, buy this , put this on and you must have fancy kit o get top yields and if we don't it won't yield . Well in my mind its all a lot of rubbish and it is really just reps and for all suppliers trying to get their hands on the farms money .
A nice cheap drill there Clive whats not to like about it as long as it does what yu want and you you get the results it don't matter.
 

willy

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Rutland
Why not Jd, seems to be moving more than necessary. The weaving going well and osr yields from this year did 3.9t. But like it none the less.
 

Henry B

Member
Location
Midlands
Very impressive Clive. I notice you have chopped and spread your straw at 12 metres with your combine, do you find you can spread at this width reliable even with a cross wind?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Why not Jd, seems to be moving more than necessary. The weaving going well and osr yields from this year did 3.9t. But like it none the less.

Disc drill can hairpin in a choped straw situation like this , tines acts as a row cleaner so from experience so far I think is the superior choice over my 750a In this circumstance

750a superior I other situations and busy drilling cover crops today . I have had similar yieds to your weaving from 750a crops this year but tine crops In the past closer to 5t:/ ha so I feel tine is the choice in OSR based on experience
 
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Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Very impressive Clive. I notice you have chopped and spread your straw at 12 metres with your combine, do you find you can spread at this width reliable even with a cross wind?

It's a challenge and 12m straw spread is no 1 improvement I'm looking for going forward
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Why not Jd, seems to be moving more than necessary. The weaving going well and osr yields from this year did 3.9t. But like it none the less.

I thought the soil movement was remarkably low, no more than we see with the JD - I think what your looking at in my picture is the muck that was spread still on the surface ?
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
Have to say it does look good, what forward speed can you do

faster you go the more it disturbs, its ok up to about 12-13 kph which is only a bit slower than our 750a drills a usually

think we have these coulter design right now, big improvement on previous bought coulters and attempts to modify
 

Iben

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Fife
faster you go the more it disturbs, its ok up to about 12-13 kph which is only a bit slower than our 750a drills a usually

think we have these coulter design right now, big improvement on previous bought coulters and attempts to modify

Do you have a close up picture of the coulters?
 

Oat

Member
Location
Cheshire
not going to roll, disturbance is very low and the packer wheel is doing enough I think

what kind of teething problems have you had ?
If the clods on the surface are muck, then it doesn't appear it has been rolled much, or are the packer rollers immediately behind the tines, and only roll that area?

Obviously I don't know your soil and situation, but if it was my area and soil, I would be rolling to reduce slug pressure, improve seed/soil contact and improve moisture retention. Seed/soil contact and moisture retention is probably less of an issue for you in this situation, as weather has been quite wet, and you soil looks good.
 

Clive

Staff Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lichfield
If the clods on the surface are muck, then it doesn't appear it has been rolled much, or are the packer rollers immediately behind the tines, and only roll that area?

Obviously I don't know your soil and situation, but if it was my area and soil, I would be rolling to reduce slug pressure, improve seed/soil contact and improve moisture retention. Seed/soil contact and moisture retention is probably less of an issue for you in this situation, as weather has been quite wet, and you soil looks good.

tyres follow coulters, the seed is packed reasonably firm, the muck on the surface is being "tickled" up by the following harrow I think

I'm pretty confident I wont have a slug problem - that's what the AS is for mostly ;-) (as well as the N) and also they are rarely a issue when FYM is applied in my experience

It also keeps raining here so rolling not very practical just now
 

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