Maxxum vs MF 3120 vs NH 40 series

Joe S · Jan 9, 2017

Drillman said:
13.6/38 don't look stupid on a 7610. Just flat out will be 18-19 mph at best.

Narrow tyres and good speed is impossible[emoji24]

Joe S · Jan 9, 2017

mtx.jag said:
Had 18.4/38 on mine. She did 40K

That's would of looked smart![emoji7]im a bit jealous of the spead[emoji24]

Drillman · Jan 9, 2017

Joe S said:
Narrow tyres and good speed is impossible[emoji24]

No it's possible you can go tall and narrow. but at a cost

Joe S · Jan 9, 2017

Drillman said:
No it's possible you can go tall and narrow. but at a cost

Will end up silly money won't it?[emoji17]

Gruffalo · Jan 9, 2017

John 1594 said:
Make sure the oil is black, the coolant is clean, genuine filters are a good sign, the gear linkages are tight and its the uprated H pattern, not a poxy rubik cube

it will invariably have had an X pattern block fitted at some point. Worn PUHs, leaky spools, the back window will probably need renewing as they are fragile

See it start from cold as well

I'm surprised with all your Ford knowledge that you didn't know all 7810's had H pattern gearboxes as they were introduced at the 1988 Smithfield Show iirc so well after the super q cab. Rubik cube was the very early 10 series from '81 to '83 when they were changed to H pattern. Also I believe X blocks were only 4cyl and not 6. ALL tractors that have done a few hours trailer ing will have worn puh's and leaky spools. Don't know of any others who fitted the lever on the side of the scvs to help put pipes in.

mtx.jag · Jan 9, 2017

Joe S said:
That's would of looked smart![emoji7]im a bit jealous of the spead[emoji24]

She was brilliant,and looked the part to...
Shame it was before the days of camera phones..

fieldfarmer · Jan 9, 2017

Had a 6810 generation 111 here, new in 1990 , dynode at 120 at the shaft after a small spanner remap, straight pipe. I was 20 yrs old and I loved that tractor would easily out pull a 7810 on the road, did roll it over once but it was fairly new at the time so was repaired. But I wouldn't want to be using it now, would soon get tired of the two stick gear change on the headland to reverse back from working in high 6.

stuart · Jan 9, 2017

mtx.jag said:
She was brilliant,and looked the part to...
Shame it was before the days of camera phones..

ollandroverman · Jan 9, 2017

Two Tone said:
Do not despair young man!

It wasn't meant to be.

Console yourself with the fact that there are plenty more out there, probably better than that one was. Admittedly, they might be a bit of a bugger to go and look at from Orkney and the haulage might cost a bit more. But when it doesn't happen and you didn't end up with something like this, always remember that there are always alternatives and that you will get something better instead.

What is more, as the dealer knows you are looking and he is a friend of your Dad's, if he has any sense he will find something right for you.

Good but nothing like as good as a 7740. Completely different animal painted the same colour. IMO you should also consider a 6640 which is the same but without a turbo. Do you really need a turbo's tractor? A 6640 is 5 litres after all FCS!

Others 4 cylinders to consider are the MF 390, 390T or 398T. Bombproof reliability and simple. But go for the gear levers on the side if you can rather than the middle. Isn't that dealer an MF chap?

Don't know too much about any 4 cylinder Maxxums and I'd avoid anything older IH wise, like the plague - Head gasket and TA problems.

They don't do head gaskets like you imply, only if you block the rad and cook 'em. Torque Amplifier issues on old abused examples perhaps, but they are only light weight tractors really. What are collectively known as 'Continental' models (844 and 856 4cyl and 956 and 1056 6 cyl) are very good, bomb proof tractors, and generally are much cheaper to buy then their Ford or Massey counterparts of the same standing.
I ran an 40k Case 844xl for 10 years. Bolted a big turbo on and she bacame an unbelievably keen goer. Never put on a dino, but conservatively estimate 110hp plus. which was still too small for my needs really, so she worked hard!

John 1594 · Jan 9, 2017

Gruffalo said:
I'm surprised with all your Ford knowledge that you didn't know all 7810's had H pattern gearboxes as they were introduced at the 1988 Smithfield Show iirc so well after the super q cab. Rubik cube was the very early 10 series from '81 to '83 when they were changed to H pattern. Also I believe X blocks were only 4cyl and not 6. ALL tractors that have done a few hours trailer ing will have worn puh's and leaky spools. Don't know of any others who fitted the lever on the side of the scvs to help put pipes in.

If you had read the previous posts you might have worked out i was offering advice as regards to a 7610....which is what was being asked about!

Thomas5060 · Jan 9, 2017

John 1594 said:
If you had read the previous posts you might have worked out i was offering advice as regards to a 7610....which is what was being asked about!

The way you said it it sounds like your saying to make sure it's the updated h pattern column shift gearbox which was only on Q cab, AP and LP cabs. The Super Q had the H Pattern at the RHS although some had the constant mesh gearbox to the right

Joe S · Jan 9, 2017

What about john Deere 6200? We have found a stupid cheap (4K)[emoji15] one south a bit!says she's done less the 5k hours much be something seriously wrong there not saying in the add?

Thomas5060 · Jan 9, 2017

Joe S said:
What about john Deere 6200? We have found a stupid cheap (4K)[emoji15] one south a bit!says she's done less the 5k hours much be something seriously wrong there not saying in the add?

A fake add?

John 1594 · Jan 9, 2017

Thomas5060 said:
The way you said it it sounds like your saying to make sure it's the updated h pattern column shift gearbox which was only on Q cab, AP and LP cabs. The Super Q had the H Pattern at the RHS although some had the constant mesh gearbox to the right

7610 i drove was a series 2, what had recieved the H pattern column mod, although the range lever was still in a knee clashingly awkward place

it also had the later X block

4610 was still pure rubik cube, part prayer, part craft and part guesswork finding a gear, and luck if you found it twice on the trot

Joe S · Jan 9, 2017

Thomas5060 said:
A fake add?

Idk there was a valid email on it[emoji848]just have to see if we get a response!

Gruffalo · Jan 9, 2017

John 1594 said:
If you had read the previous posts you might have worked out i was offering advice as regards to a 7610....which is what was being asked about!

Thomas5060 said:
The way you said it it sounds like your saying to make sure it's the updated h pattern column shift gearbox which was only on Q cab, AP and LP cabs. The Super Q had the H Pattern at the RHS although some had the constant mesh gearbox to the right

That's how I read it

Thomas5060 · Jan 9, 2017

John 1594 said:
7610 i drove was a series 2, what had recieved the H pattern column mod, although the range lever was still in a knee clashingly awkward place

it also had the later X block

4610 was still pure rubik cube, part prayer, part craft and part guesswork finding a gear, and luck if you found it twice on the trot

So it was a series 2 with the low cab?

John 1594 · Jan 9, 2017

Thomas5060 said:
So it was a series 2 with the low cab?

Il have to find a picture...i may have been a series 1 thinking about it....white transfers with blue lettering? Peculair throttle what leaned across the dash at about 10 o clock when it was on tickover

It was on 13/6/38s, 10 years at least since i drove it

Gruffalo · Jan 9, 2017

John 1594 said:
7610 i drove was a series 2, what had recieved the H pattern column mod, although the range lever was still in a knee clashingly awkward place

it also had the later X block

Series 2 to was the introduction of the super q in Autumn '85 with rhs gears, column gears were series 10 q cab

Thomas5060 · Jan 9, 2017

John 1594 said:
Il have to find a picture...i may have been a series 1 thinking about it....white transfers with blue lettering? Peculair throttle what leaned across the dash at about 10 o clock when it was on tickover

It was on 13/6/38s, 10 years at least since i drove it

White and blue stickers were series 1

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