Fair enough, good that the business you are employed in is a member
Job to know who does what on here
Good news for CTL and Epoxi
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Fair enough, good that the business you are employed in is a member
Job to know who does what on here
shakerator
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ollie989898
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The EU is heavily lobbied by big business....
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In fairness the presence of actives in water supplies has nothing to do with eu membership. If remember correctly metaldehyde is only being banned in the UK.
ollie989898
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It's the EU water quality directives driving all this. Now the technology exists that they can detect anything in water. Plus you have the whole endocrine disruptor issue. They also seem to be banning stuff simply because other alternatives exist. Ie- you have ally so why do you need mecoprop type thinking, which will result in more pressure being placed on the remaining actives. Then there is the whole registration process which makes old actives too expensive to bother protecting.
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If Gove was going to put that into reverse he would not have banned metaldehyde would he?
ollie989898
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I doubt Gove even knows what metaldehyde is. One of his underlings did it I suspect. The water companies have been fed up with metaldehyde for years, its a sod to remove it from water. It has nothing to do with any perceived health risk.
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You think water consumers will wear chems in water supplies? If you do you are not as an astute politician as our friend Gove.
they dont seem to mind chlorine or fluoride, wonder which takes more to kill chlorine or ctl
ollie989898
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I don't understand the question. The water companies have complained about metaldehyde in water for years. It is very difficult to remove. Unsurprisingly, it was banned. It's as simple as that. They lobbied, farmers didn't.
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We see after Brexit I guess.
I think you would find that farmers did, I’m amazed it wasn’t removed years ago. The fact is it regularly appears in water at well over the legal limit. It was finally banned due to potential to poison wildlife as was draza, never mind the decades of use with no record of wildlife poisoning, the potential was there and so it was banned. That is how the precautionary principle works.
I believe we have agreed to go along with any decisions that are made before we leave the only chance CTL had was for the decision to be made after we had left. I don’t see Brexit bringing CTL back now.
Revysol is made by BASF. CTL was made by Syngenta before the patent expired.
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Anyone know if CTL was one of the pesticides being made in that Chinese factory that exploded? Might affect supplies, just to complicate things further.
You little ray of sunshine! As if you post in Friday wasn’t bad enough news.
shakerator
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Fungicides might be banned for being toxic to fungus
Herbicides banned as toxic to wildflowers
Insecticides banned due to toxicity to insects
Herbicides banned as toxic to wildflowers
Insecticides banned due to toxicity to insects
Only for BASF who will have almost a monopoly on decent fungicide tech until others catch up
Existing tech will be way less useful without ctl
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Inatreq from Corteva potentially more of a game changer than Revysol as a new mode of action. The big manufacturers will be sharing material, e.g BAYER give Corteva access to prothioconazole in return for Inatreq.
Are these new active single site only? If so, they only have a limited lifespan IMO.