Good news for CTL and Epoxi

[Chris F]

Anyone know if CTL was one of the pesticides being made in that Chinese factory that exploded? Might affect supplies, just to complicate things further.

Here is a bit of an update from various bits of the trade I have cobbled together when asked about supply and price:

"Implications are growers will look to stockpile which is fine, predicted shortage for this season I don’t think will be as bad as some thought. I know of at least two manufactures with significant volumes ‘on the move’."

"It is not a given that all revocations have a ‘use up period’ of 12 months and the talk is November 19 for decision by EU regulators bearing in mind often the voice of reason has been UK on these matters, is my major concern. In summary message should be don’t panic, until revocation confirmed, which is likely, but not confirmed and could be delayed until next year."

"PRICE will rise for sure and there are a number of co forms with triazole’s, which may be just as ‘cost effective’ certainly at T1 if prices rise."

"A good message for the forum would be to ‘accept’ the inevitable with CTL and use this season look at credible alternatives in preparation to counter the other options from manufactures next season!!"

 

[Gong Farmer]

Are these new active single site only? If so, they only have a limited lifespan IMO.

Yes, so need careful anti-resistance stewardship. What with, heaven only knows.

 

[jonnyjon]

If this or any other chemical is being found in the water or food it should be banned regardless

 

[B'o'B]

If this or any other chemical is being found in the water or food it should be banned regardless

WE MUST BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE NOW!
It's regularly found in bread making wheat at levels of between 11%-15%! Please write to your MP now.

 

[jonnyjon]

WE MUST BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE NOW!
It's regularly found in bread making wheat at levels of between 11%-15%! Please write to your MP now.

If it's carcinogenic, yes

 

[B'o'B]

If it's carcinogenic, yes

It is known to kill thousands of people every year.

 

[Gong Farmer]

WE MUST BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE NOW!
It's regularly found in bread making wheat at levels of between 11%-15%! Please write to your MP now.

Can't. It's already been found on Mars - we've lost control of it.

 

[B'o'B]

Can't. It's already been found on Mars - we've lost control of it.

You are so defeatist! If we all held your attitude nothing would be achieved.

 

[Brisel]

If this or any other chemical is being found in the water or food it should be banned regardless

Including glyphosate? How would your conservation ag work then?

 

[shakerator]

WE MUST BAN DIHYDROGEN MONOXIDE NOW!
It's regularly found in bread making wheat at levels of between 11%-15%! Please write to your MP now.

Just got new abstraction licence for this killer

 

[PSQ]

If it's carcinogenic, yes

It's found in every type of cancerous tumour. It's really nasty stuff

 

[ZXR17]

If this or any other chemical is being found in the water or food it should be banned regardless

You'll be campaigning to ban the Pill then , a known major problem in water causing infertility in fish .

 

[Daniel]

If it's carcinogenic, yes

It’s not carcinogenic but it is proven to cause rapid suffocation.

 

[Gong Farmer]

It’s not carcinogenic but it is proven to cause rapid suffocation.

And is currently destroying millions of acres of crops across parts of the US.

 

[Oat]

You need to take a more balances view of dihydrogen monoxide-

• is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
• contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
• may cause severe burns.
• contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
• accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
• may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
• has been found in excised tumours of terminal cancer patients
• Is used in many forms of cruel animal research
• It is an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

• as an industrial solvent and coolant.
• in nuclear power plants.
• in the production of styrofoam.
• as a fire retardant.

But most importantly, and in particular reference to agriculture-
It is used in the distribution and application of pesticides. Even after washing, produce and spray equipment remains contaminated by this chemical.

 

[jonnyjon]

You need to take a more balances view of dihydrogen monoxide-

• is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
• contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
• may cause severe burns.
• contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
• accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
• may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
• has been found in excised tumours of terminal cancer patients
• Is used in many forms of cruel animal research
• It is an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

• as an industrial solvent and coolant.
• in nuclear power plants.
• in the production of styrofoam.
• as a fire retardant.

But most importantly, and in particular reference to agriculture-
It is used in the distribution and application of pesticides. Even after washing, produce and spray equipment remains contaminated by this chemical.

Lovely stuff

 

[jonnyjon]

Including glyphosate? How would your conservation ag work then?

I'm working on it, will be trying some things this year so will c how it goes. Have reduced rates using citric acid as a water conditioner. Where there is a will there is a way, either way I'll not be using it long term

 

[Rob Holmes]

You need to take a more balances view of dihydrogen monoxide-

• is also known as hydroxyl acid, and is the major component of acid rain.
• contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
• may cause severe burns.
• contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
• accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
• may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
• has been found in excised tumours of terminal cancer patients
• Is used in many forms of cruel animal research
• It is an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products

Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

• as an industrial solvent and coolant.
• in nuclear power plants.
• in the production of styrofoam.
• as a fire retardant.

But most importantly, and in particular reference to agriculture-
It is used in the distribution and application of pesticides. Even after washing, produce and spray equipment remains contaminated by this chemical.

Everyone who can come into contact with it has died