Will I Save Money......

200hp on a 50cube wagon
Seasonal averages are
3.5l a acre diesel for the wagon tractor
5.5acres a hour

Make sure its cut every (max) 7 weeks
You need to change the way you think about silage, I've turned jobs down as people pile the fert on and think trying a wagon will save them money,but in reality a 500hp harvester will be chewing on the rows


Quality not quantity
 

Devon James

Member
Location
Devon
Ah forage wagons are charged by the hour and when one asks how many acres will it do in an hour the response is 'it depends......'
We will price it per acre, will be pleased to have the chance of doing so. Work for all sorts of systems, intensive dairy to suckler cow guys so all grass types and quality. Out again tomorrow for a new farm.
Two high spec machines
 

james ds

Member
Location
leinster
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What make is it
Pottinger jumbo 6010.
 

multi power

Member
Location
pembrokeshire
It will cost roughly the same per acre as a SPH to lift it. However you will save on 4 tractors, trailers and fuel to haul it, assuming you can find them. You will have time to buckrake it yourself. We reckoned on saving £1500 on each 100 acre cut.
Best to cut it when leafy as it chops better and the crop goes in the wagon not blown over the sides. Less ground pressure too.
How do you save all this fuel? There is still the same amount of grass to haul regardless of one wagon or however many trailers
 

Derrick Hughes

Member
Location
Ceredigion
.....If is switch over to a forage wagon (contractor) to make my silage? My silage cost around £60/ac to get it in the pit last year (raking, lifting, clamping). I did the mowing, tedding and drayed a trailer. Distance from the clamp to the furthest field is less than a mile. Has anybody gone from self propelled to forage wagon and seen a significant saving in harvesting costs?

I am happy with my current contractor but I am getting concerned about the cost and the super singles.

TIA
You can get the whole job sit in the house you do nothing for that here
 

puppet

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
sw scotland
How do you save all this fuel? There is still the same amount of grass to haul regardless of one wagon or however many trailers
The main saving is on labour and machinery. Various reasons to save fuel too.
Longer chop, not a heavy SPFH to move around, the wagon will actually hold 10 tons of grass each load so fewer trips rather than two 10 ton trailers. If you are using 4 trailers then they spend a fair time running empty chasing a chopper whereas the wagon is straight into work. And no worries matching chopper and trailers.
 

multi power

Member
Location
pembrokeshire
The main saving is on labour and machinery. Various reasons to save fuel too.
Longer chop, not a heavy SPFH to move around, the wagon will actually hold 10 tons of grass each load so fewer trips rather than two 10 ton trailers. If you are using 4 trailers then they spend a fair time running empty chasing a chopper whereas the wagon is straight into work. And no worries matching chopper and trailers.
Good point about trailer running empty, sorry I had thought you were saying the actual haulage bit would use less fuel
 

james ds

Member
Location
leinster
We tried wagon on one cut beef silage last year.. had 2 big tractors on the clamp, one with a compactor on. They just could not consolidate it at all. The bloody stuff heated up in the clamp at feed out time. Never again.
Blunt knives and too much wilt can cause that , it's not the wagons fault it wasn't operated properly , we cut 2300 avers a year and we never have pits heating .
 

Lazy Eric

Member
I must admit there was two wagons and it was coming in fast. Had been cut 24-36 hours but was very dry and springy .
Before always had it done with a spfh with no problems. Would probably be better off baled.
Before anyone says take it younger , it is ideal for our incalf suckler cows.. they do very well on it , and if not limited will become too fit...
 
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james ds

Member
Location
leinster
Good point about trailer running empty, sorry I had thought you were saying the actual haulage bit would use less fuel
I was watching a sp starting off in a field with 4 trailers , the first trailer was under the spout and the other three drove around after him idle , got the full lap around to the gate in the first trailer , so the harvest and 4 tractors drove around that first sward , I was in the next field to them and I went around at the same speed picking the same size sward on my own and I brought more than two of their loads in one . So my one engine versus their five men and machines , you do t need a calculator to figure out which is more cost effective.
 

james ds

Member
Location
leinster
I must admit there was two wagons and it was coming in fast. Had been cut 24-36 hours but was very dry and springy .
Before always had it done with a spfh with no problems. Would probably be better off baled.
No tractors can handle two wagons drawing in , that's where you need a good loader.
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