davidroberts30
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Wagon is generally half the price of balesYou sure it's not cheaper to do bales
Wagon is generally half the price of balesYou sure it's not cheaper to do bales
We will price it per acre, will be pleased to have the chance of doing so. Work for all sorts of systems, intensive dairy to suckler cow guys so all grass types and quality. Out again tomorrow for a new farm.Ah forage wagons are charged by the hour and when one asks how many acres will it do in an hour the response is 'it depends......'
Pottinger jumbo 6010.What make is it
Work fine just don't put it in 50 ft rowsso for 1 cut bulky silage the wagons a non starter?
How do you make that out , we cut every type of grass and never have a problem .so for 1 cut bulky silage the wagons a non starter?
How do you save all this fuel? There is still the same amount of grass to haul regardless of one wagon or however many trailersIt will cost roughly the same per acre as a SPH to lift it. However you will save on 4 tractors, trailers and fuel to haul it, assuming you can find them. You will have time to buckrake it yourself. We reckoned on saving £1500 on each 100 acre cut.
Best to cut it when leafy as it chops better and the crop goes in the wagon not blown over the sides. Less ground pressure too.
You can get the whole job sit in the house you do nothing for that here.....If is switch over to a forage wagon (contractor) to make my silage? My silage cost around £60/ac to get it in the pit last year (raking, lifting, clamping). I did the mowing, tedding and drayed a trailer. Distance from the clamp to the furthest field is less than a mile. Has anybody gone from self propelled to forage wagon and seen a significant saving in harvesting costs?
I am happy with my current contractor but I am getting concerned about the cost and the super singles.
TIA
. . . and you haven't got a fleet of over powered tractors and trailers running round at high speedYou save fuel because wagon not so power hungry as chopper
The main saving is on labour and machinery. Various reasons to save fuel too.How do you save all this fuel? There is still the same amount of grass to haul regardless of one wagon or however many trailers
Good point about trailer running empty, sorry I had thought you were saying the actual haulage bit would use less fuelThe main saving is on labour and machinery. Various reasons to save fuel too.
Longer chop, not a heavy SPFH to move around, the wagon will actually hold 10 tons of grass each load so fewer trips rather than two 10 ton trailers. If you are using 4 trailers then they spend a fair time running empty chasing a chopper whereas the wagon is straight into work. And no worries matching chopper and trailers.
so for 1 cut bulky silage the wagons a non starter?
Why.. Too dry ? (cut too far ahead ) ? Too long a chop?We tried wagon on one cut beef silage last year.. had 2 big tractors on the clamp, one with a compactor on. They just could not consolidate it at all. The bloody stuff heated up in the clamp at feed out time. Never again.
Blunt knives and too much wilt can cause that , it's not the wagons fault it wasn't operated properly , we cut 2300 avers a year and we never have pits heating .We tried wagon on one cut beef silage last year.. had 2 big tractors on the clamp, one with a compactor on. They just could not consolidate it at all. The bloody stuff heated up in the clamp at feed out time. Never again.
I was watching a sp starting off in a field with 4 trailers , the first trailer was under the spout and the other three drove around after him idle , got the full lap around to the gate in the first trailer , so the harvest and 4 tractors drove around that first sward , I was in the next field to them and I went around at the same speed picking the same size sward on my own and I brought more than two of their loads in one . So my one engine versus their five men and machines , you do t need a calculator to figure out which is more cost effective.Good point about trailer running empty, sorry I had thought you were saying the actual haulage bit would use less fuel
No tractors can handle two wagons drawing in , that's where you need a good loader.I must admit there was two wagons and it was coming in fast. Had been cut 24-36 hours but was very dry and springy .
Before always had it done with a spfh with no problems. Would probably be better off baled.