Empty heifers

Devon lad

Member
Location
Mid Devon
Did our scanning on our 78 spring calving heifers a few weeks ago and the empty rate is quite high. 11/78, 9 week breed period.
Usual empty rate 3-4/80 or 5%.
50 top heifers selected for 21 day ai to natural heats using lic sexed semen and scratch cards + observations.
Other 28 2nd class heifers ran with 3 Hereford bulls non-fertility checked.

After 21 days the ai’d heifers joined the 2nd class heifers and 3x Hereford bulls.

Of the 11 empty’s, 9 of them were the AI’d group. Seems to be a high ratio. Clearly the bulls worked ok on the 2nd class heifers but the AI heifers that did not hold to AI also didn’t hold to the bulls.
Early embryo loss/reabsorbion?
All heifers were well grown and bulling really well, winter diet was slightly different than usual as our kale yield was low so more silage were fed out in the field, but the winter was kind and spring grazing was fantastic.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
 

vantage

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Pembs
Did our scanning on our 78 spring calving heifers a few weeks ago and the empty rate is quite high. 11/78, 9 week breed period.
Usual empty rate 3-4/80 or 5%.
50 top heifers selected for 21 day ai to natural heats using lic sexed semen and scratch cards + observations.
Other 28 2nd class heifers ran with 3 Hereford bulls non-fertility checked.

After 21 days the ai’d heifers joined the 2nd class heifers and 3x Hereford bulls.

Of the 11 empty’s, 9 of them were the AI’d group. Seems to be a high ratio. Clearly the bulls worked ok on the 2nd class heifers but the AI heifers that did not hold to AI also didn’t hold to the bulls.
Early embryo loss/reabsorbion?
All heifers were well grown and bulling really well, winter diet was slightly different than usual as our kale yield was low so more silage were fed out in the field, but the winter was kind and spring grazing was fantastic.
Any thoughts much appreciated.
I’m thinking that the ai heifers had less chance to get in calf if the semen at first service was less fertile. I had a shocker with my autumn heifers, ai’d to sexed after cider sync, maybe 25% in calf to 1st service. Spring group, AA bull was straight in and I’ve served more cows to sexed, which has led to a higher return rate, I cannot win!
 

Devon lad

Member
Location
Mid Devon
I’ve just read an Irish farmers journal article and there are very few single digit empty rates being reported in spring calving herds and even higher empty rates in heifers this year?
Interesting?
 

jimmer

Member
Location
East Devon
Just my thoughts
Tell lic if you haven't already
Next year, synch those chosen for ai, but put bulls in next day
they didn't hold to ai for whatever reason, you then put them in with untested bulls, if only one was working he would have been pushed to cover them all and if he had run out of puff getting the first lot pregnant...... Or he didn't fancy posh birds ?
 

jimmer

Member
Location
East Devon
I'm later than most, my 6week icr is looking like being 50% (pd'd up to day 27 so far) bulls went on for third round and worked hard, stickered everything again start of 4th round and things are quieter ??
 
Location
East Mids
Just my thoughts
Tell lic if you haven't already
Next year, synch those chosen for ai, but put bulls in next day
they didn't hold to ai for whatever reason, you then put them in with untested bulls, if only one was working he would have been pushed to cover them all and if he had run out of puff getting the first lot pregnant...... Or he didn't fancy posh birds ?
sexed not usually recommended for a sync programme.
 

Manney

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Penzance
I have sexed in the flask but decided against using it.

We've done ok this year with 90% in calf over 12 weeks, thats cows and hefs including anything not severed with the intention of culling. 6 week in calf rate is 79% so I'm happy with the result.
 

Rossymons

Member
Location
Cornwall
Did our scanning on our 78 spring calving heifers a few weeks ago and the empty rate is quite high. 11/78, 9 week breed period.
Usual empty rate 3-4/80 or 5%.
50 top heifers selected for 21 day ai to natural heats using lic sexed semen and scratch cards + observations.
Other 28 2nd class heifers ran with 3 Hereford bulls non-fertility checked.

After 21 days the ai’d heifers joined the 2nd class heifers and 3x Hereford bulls.

Of the 11 empty’s, 9 of them were the AI’d group. Seems to be a high ratio. Clearly the bulls worked ok on the 2nd class heifers but the AI heifers that did not hold to AI also didn’t hold to the bulls.
Early embryo loss/reabsorbion?
All heifers were well grown and bulling really well, winter diet was slightly different than usual as our kale yield was low so more silage were fed out in the field, but the winter was kind and spring grazing was fantastic.
Any thoughts much appreciated.

What were the dates of Service? i'm guessing early May to Mid June?
 

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