Hauling your own milk

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Collecting milk while you are still milking is a major no no

TBH, we have to have partial collections - often during milking via a T piece - and we get a daily NML readout. The bacto is always elevated on the partial pickups for some reason

But we do run a glycol chiller (providing the milkers remember to start it up) which has the milk going in to the tank at 4 deg C max
 

Wellytrack

Member
Wouldn’t have thought the dairy would want to see DIY haulage, but fair enough. If the haul is so close and outlay can be kept low there is scope for savings/profit with 36k involved.

Downside is as said tractor weight limits, your going to be hauling about 14000 litres a time rather than 28000 so two trips or one per day.
 

Smith31

Member
Sorry i can't see how it would be cost effective? You would need 2 lorries minimum, the spare lorry would provide cover whilst the main one was in for inspections, garage time etc. You would need a minimum of 2 x hgv drivers again a spare to cover for holidays and illness. You would have more paperwork so more office hours, you would need a transport manager if you did haulage for others ....By the time you deduct the outgoings there is very little profit in haulage.

Additionally, once you've spent in the region of £2000 on an employee to obtain his/her hgv licence, he/she becomes more skilled so the hourly rate has to go up, which then upsets the remainder of the workforce.
 

Serup

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Denmark
Not a massive issue but the local collection only has 18000 litre tankers so having to part load every other day which can be a minor nuisance as we need to insert a T piece so they can collect if we’re milkng

Who do you sell to?
Arla won’t take your milk unless they can unhook your hose from the tank and start pumping in 2 minuttes. I have two tanks, so they can collect when they want.
They will never take milk using the above descibed method.
 

yin ewe

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Co Antrim
Sorry i can't see how it would be cost effective? You would need 2 lorries minimum, the spare lorry would provide cover whilst the main one was in for inspections, garage time etc. You would need a minimum of 2 x hgv drivers again a spare to cover for holidays and illness. You would have more paperwork so more office hours, you would need a transport manager if you did haulage for others ....By the time you deduct the outgoings there is very little profit in haulage.

Additionally, once you've spent in the region of £2000 on an employee to obtain his/her hgv licence, he/she becomes more skilled so the hourly rate has to go up, which then upsets the remainder of the workforce.

Don't see the need for 2 lorries as they would have a full day for psv/repairs/garage checks etc, if he was on eodc. Loads of straw or feed can be planned around maintenance work.
The drivers would be employed on the basis that they would have to do other farm work when there was no lorry work. Covered by the 'any other duties' part of my work contract which means anything from sweeping the yard to cutting the lawn at the bosses house.
 

Smith31

Member
Don't see the need for 2 lorries as they would have a full day for psv/repairs/garage checks etc, if he was on eodc. Loads of straw or feed can be planned around maintenance work.
The drivers would be employed on the basis that they would have to do other farm work when there was no lorry work. Covered by the 'any other duties' part of my work contract which means anything from sweeping the yard to cutting the lawn at the bosses house.

One of our livestock lorries has been with Scania all week with adblu issues, they have a tendency to break down. Therefore, having a back up is good practice.

I presume most farms already have staff who sweep the yard etc, employing a driver to carry out a duty which is already being carried out by another employee wouldn't really be in the best interests of the business.

Just my opinion, may make sense for others.
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
Sorry i can't see how it would be cost effective? You would need 2 lorries minimum, the spare lorry would provide cover whilst the main one was in for inspections, garage time etc. You would need a minimum of 2 x hgv drivers again a spare to cover for holidays and illness. You would have more paperwork so more office hours, you would need a transport manager if you did haulage for others ....By the time you deduct the outgoings there is very little profit in haulage.

Additionally, once you've spent in the region of £2000 on an employee to obtain his/her hgv licence, he/she becomes more skilled so the hourly rate has to go up, which then upsets the remainder of the workforce.

Tractor and drawbar hauling 6 miles. Apparently all (???) we need is DFCA (or summat like that) accreditation - which is the haulier "Red Tractor" scheme.
We will shortly be sending 5m litres plus/yr so if the creamery are charging even 1ppl, that's £50k alone in haulage but averaged across their milk pool, it would be more like 2ppl
Not to be sniffed at
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Tractor and drawbar hauling 6 miles. Apparently all (???) we need is DFCA (or summat like that) accreditation - which is the haulier "Red Tractor" scheme.
We will shortly be sending 5m litres plus/yr so if the creamery are charging even 1ppl, that's £50k alone in haulage but averaged across their milk pool, it would be more like 2ppl
Not to be sniffed at

That is a lot of milk.

What's the capacity of your tractor and drawbar?
 

Smith31

Member
Tractor and drawbar hauling 6 miles. Apparently all (???) we need is DFCA (or summat like that) accreditation - which is the haulier "Red Tractor" scheme.
We will shortly be sending 5m litres plus/yr so if the creamery are charging even 1ppl, that's £50k alone in haulage but averaged across their milk pool, it would be more like 2ppl
Not to be sniffed at

Sorry haven't read all the post presumed you were going to be using a tanker lorry.

That's a no brainer if you already have the staff and tractors (y)
 

roscoe erf

Member
Livestock Farmer
Would only work if you had a driver who loved the job and could organise his work to make the most of having a truck. Get a couple of other guys tooled up with HGV ticket to act as relief. Could cart slurry with the truck to keep it busy.

Trouble is 36K a year doesn't seem a big enough cherry for buying a truck and the trailers to go with it, plus finding a bloke?
Hope your going to clean the milk tanker after
 
One of our livestock lorries has been with Scania all week with adblu issues, they have a tendency to break down. Therefore, having a back up is good practice.

I presume most farms already have staff who sweep the yard etc, employing a driver to carry out a duty which is already being carried out by another employee wouldn't really be in the best interests of the business.

Just my opinion, may make sense for others.
It could also get him in trouble with his tachometer
When a drivers on break it means no work
 

Fendt516profi

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Yorkshire
Not really. Only 13600 litres a day. Medium sized farm these days

Fastrac 4220 using ball & spoon hitch and not much in the way of hills or long uphill/down dale drags but needs a lot of thinking through yet.

Just cogitating

Be better getting a fendt and filling all you other machinery up when you get back to farm
 

unlacedgecko

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Fife
Not really. Only 13600 litres a day. Medium sized farm these days

Fastrac 4220 using ball & spoon hitch and not much in the way of hills or long uphill/down dale drags but needs a lot of thinking through yet.

Just cogitating

Someone above mentioned a tractor drawn capacity of 18,000l. So that’s 278 deliveries you’d need to make. Have you got that spare capacity?
 

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