Dead Rabbits
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The one that dies the least. This is the only variety that will persist beyond 1 year here.
autumn re-seeding
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The one that dies the least. This is the only variety that will persist beyond 1 year here.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Thats noted for its drought tolerance isn't it - you tried Base ?
Base tetraploid perennial ryegrass was selected from high yielding, densely tillered plants that survived two years of severe drought and hard sheep grazing
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- Ceredigion
8 years old and still going strong! Brian trialled Base before it was commercial and has been impressed with how his paddocks have produced and persisted through challenging years. Brian says "cows lift in milk productions after grazing the Base paddocks. It stands out during the summer and we try to manage the tetraploid well but occasionally we do nail the paddocks when feed is tight - but Base recovers!"
BRIAN PIRIE, HAURAKI PLAINS
Dead Rabbits
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I haven’t tried it personally but I’m sure they have in the past. University does various trials with ryegrass and thus far Albion is the only one makes it.
Ryegrass in general will never have drought tolerance. The best thing it can do is go dormant
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
What do you grow for grazing and forage if ryegrass wont last in your climate?
Dead Rabbits
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Good question, yield. We can grow 14t DM/ha most years if we dump the N to it. Problem is it doesn’t grow mid June-sep.
I hate on ryegrass a lot but nothing can touch it’s production feb-June. I don’t think the whole damn farm should be in it though and we are changing that. Alfalfa will do similar yields but doesn’t grow through winter or early spring.
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
Does that mean you just do short term leys that are put in after the dry period (so after september) and take as much as you can during the beginning of the year?
Then alfalfa/lucerne for mid year?
Excluding the variety you put up earlier which I'm guessing you just accept will grow in any months except from June-September?
Anything else grown other than maize?
Do you graze any of it? If so when and what?
Thanks!
ollie989898
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Warm season grasses.
Jdunn55
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- Helston, cornwall
Like cocksfoot?
Dead Rabbits
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- 'Merica
I’ll reply in your thread
ollie989898
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I'm not sure if cocksfoot is a cool or warm season grass, but in other parts of the world they grow warm season grasses, these are more tolerant of heat and drought but are not very winter hardy. Some forage species are technically grasses but are distinctly different- for example sorghum and sudan grass. Sorghum in particular is a C4 plant so is physiologically adapted to hot conditions, too.
Tonic is surley old had compared to Boston? 28 day later heading has to be a winner? Or am I missing something?
- Location
- Ceredigion
Tonic is about the best .its an advanced variety known for its ability to establish easily and compete well.
What about its ability to run to head in 21 days? Not ideal in drier times.
Do you stock Boston?
- Location
- Ceredigion
I have neither in stock at my store but can get both - i looked into it for a customer and thats what growers told me
The sceptic in me would say its cheaper to grow so a higher margin seed.
- Location
- Cornwall.
I would say when seed houses were buying seed last September for 2020 Boston wasn't available in large enough quantities and Tonic is well proven. If the bigger seed houses buy (have bought) Boston for 2021 I would expect a very similar price to Tonic.
- Location
- Ceredigion
Hurrells Intesive Grazer -drilled into old burnt off pasture 7 weeks ago 3 inch drill spacing - lambs gone in today -
Goodbye Plough- you Bitch
Goodbye Plough- you Bitch
- Location
- somerset
we are umbilicaling our lagoon today, did a few strategic runs, across the field, to ensure no run off, with the subsoiler, 2/3 ins down, completely dry, but, doesn't look as though there is a pan, so, might get away with not ploughing !
- Location
- East Sussex
Looks good. Bit more info if possible... was it limed, what ph? Indices etc. Those rows look nicely filled in.