Are hunt and followers exempt from all laws?

unlacedgecko · Nov 24, 2020

warksfarmer said:
They won’t get anywhere with meat production. 1.1% of the population is vegan and they’ll have the masses after them if they try and stop them buying their kebabs, curries, burgers and roast dinners.

It wouldn’t bother me if shooting and fishing were banned. It’s got nothing to do with modern day agriculture or modern day life in my view.

Are you really so short sighted?

They don't need to ban meat production in the UK, just impose sufficient regulations that it becomes totally impossible/uneconomic. Look to NZ and the increasingly onerous winter cropping rules under the guise of "water quality".

"Death by a thousand cuts".

puppet · Nov 24, 2020

Al R said:
I’m no hunt supporter for a lot of the reasons mentioned above BUT after hunting it will be shooting then fishing. The local hunt did a charity run a few weeks back which went across a few of my further afield fields, they erected jumps etc in the field and I went there the next day and couldn’t see where they had been. Big thank you card and box of chocolates arrived soon after just for letting them go across a few fields.

We build sheds to keep cattle off fields so I wouldn't want 20 horses galloping about on the off-chance they will spot a fox. Certainly not at lambing time.
We have some excellent marksmen who will creep about and shoot them or just flush them out of some woods by walking through. No ground damage and hardly know they have been.

Al R · Nov 24, 2020

puppet said:
We build sheds to keep cattle off fields so I wouldn't want 20 horses galloping about on the off-chance they will spot a fox. Certainly not at lambing time.
We have some excellent marksmen who will creep about and shoot them or just flush them out of some woods by walking through. No ground damage and hardly know they have been.

Yes I have some friends with full thermals/nv etc, current count this month is 7 within 400 metres of my house

the issue that most of us are in is that we have to half support the hunt or after that has disappeared completely the anti’s will come after shooting and then fishing

Hilly · Nov 24, 2020

puppet said:
We build sheds to keep cattle off fields so I wouldn't want 20 horses galloping about on the off-chance they will spot a fox. Certainly not at lambing time.
We have some excellent marksmen who will creep about and shoot them or just flush them out of some woods by walking through. No ground damage and hardly know they have been.

I know farmers paying £100 night for fox control dead fox or no dead fox, that’s what’s coming you see .

puppet · Nov 24, 2020

To ban fishing you are after millions of people so unlikely. I think only one pack near Dumfries now so not an issue in this area.

puppet · Nov 24, 2020

Hilly said:
I know farmers paying £100 night for fox control dead fox or no dead fox, that’s what’s coming you see .

Plenty here would ask to come on for nothing or to get out on a Saturday morning, especially if they could shoot any pheasant too.

Highland Mule · Nov 24, 2020

Al R said:
Yes I have some friends with full thermals/nv etc, current count this month is 7 within 400 metres of my house
the issue that most of us are in is that we have to half support the hunt or after that has disappeared completely the anti’s will come after shooting and then fishing

Id suggest the opposite has been the problem - the red coat and horse brigade have actually turned the general public against hunting in general and made it far more difficult for those who want to control vermin in a quiet and measured manner.

Hilly · Nov 24, 2020

puppet said:
Plenty here would ask to come on for nothing or to get out on a Saturday morning, especially if they could shoot any pheasant too.

Yes I bet , it dosent last tho.

Hilly · Nov 24, 2020

puppet said:
To ban fishing you are after millions of people so unlikely. I think only one pack near Dumfries now so not an issue in this area.

The antis don’t want things banned they like the fight , throwing stones will stop fishing and get a fight with a fisher man they love that ! They are terrorists after all, hunting has took the flak once it’s gone and they have taste of victory and no where to go watch out ! And everything else will fall much quicker than hunting

thesilentone · Nov 24, 2020

Eventually the penny will drop and everyone will realise this has nothing whatsoever to do with Foxes or Hunting, it's a so-called class war, that is motiveless and pointless.

It appears people on horses are ' Upper Class ', have you ever heard such nonsense? Therefore, it can only be assumed it's the horses the anti's hate, as they represent ' Upper Class ' for some strange reason. Given the way some sabs treat them, and their fellow humans, what is achieved ?

" We saved the life of a poor fluffy fox " Oh, yea, you really did.

Why don't the Sab's turn themselves and energy to doing something that will save animals from suffering, and maybe lives and focus on child and animal cruelty. At least 30 to 40,000 cats and dogs are destroyed each year for non medical reasons. They have been dumped by people.

Kinda put's things in perspective.......

JWL · Nov 24, 2020

thesilentone said:
Eventually the penny will drop and everyone will realise this has nothing whatsoever to do with Foxes or Hunting, it's a so-called class war, that is motiveless and pointless.

It appears people on horses are ' Upper Class ', have you ever heard such nonsense? Therefore, it can only be assumed it's the horses the anti's hate, as they represent ' Upper Class ' for some strange reason. Given the way some sabs treat them, and their fellow humans, what is achieved ?

" We saved the life of a poor fluffy fox " Oh, yea, you really did.

Why don't the Sab's turn themselves and energy to doing something that will save animals from suffering, and maybe lives and focus on child and animal cruelty. At least 30 to 40,000 cats and dogs are destroyed each year for non medical reasons. They have been dumped by people.

Kinda put's things in perspective.......

Can't agree more with these comments.

startinghandle · Nov 24, 2020

Anyone see the itv late news ?

quattro · Nov 25, 2020

Hilly said:
Yes I bet , it dosent last tho.

Been here 30+ years and never paid anyone to shoot foxes or pigeons

Hilly · Nov 25, 2020

quattro said:
Been here 30+ years and never paid anyone to shoot foxes or pigeons

Nor me but another parish one farmer started paying a bloke and now they all want paid ! Things can change not many do much for nowt these days, sad but that’s life .

Tarw Coch · Nov 25, 2020

Hilly said:
Nor me but another parish one farmer started paying a bloke and now they all want paid ! Things can change not many do much for nowt these days, sad but that’s life .

OTOH plenty want permission to go shooting,, not many charge but that could change

Hilly · Nov 25, 2020

Tarw Coch said:
OTOH plenty want permission to go shooting,, not many charge but that could change

Like I say it’s started , watch this space

puntabrava · Nov 25, 2020

I remember when I used to hunt and had the odd few days out with the Newforest Buckhounds, once the Banwen miners came up for a joint meet, they rode hard and had tough horses and pony’s, don’t recall a lot of elitism amongst any of us.

borderterribles · Nov 25, 2020

puntabrava said:
I remember when I used to hunt and had the odd few days out with the Newforest Buckhounds, once the Banwen miners came up for a joint meet, they rode hard and had tough horses and pony’s, don’t recall a lot of elitism amongst any of us.

That'd be the Banwen Miners whose kennels were in a former colliery lamp room, would it. Can't get much less upper class than that, can you?

warksfarmer · Nov 25, 2020

unlacedgecko said:
Are you really so short sighted?

They don't need to ban meat production in the UK, just impose sufficient regulations that it becomes totally impossible/uneconomic. Look to NZ and the increasingly onerous winter cropping rules under the guise of "water quality".

"Death by a thousand cuts".

As I’ve said many times before the long term future of U.K. AG is organic food production and stewardship. The writings been on the wall for 20 years in my view. Brexit and subsequent trade agreements has speeded it up, so vegans activists whilst I agree do get coverage, will not be the deciding vote. It’s the government who’s going to finish the current U.K. AG industry as we know it.

uztrac · Nov 25, 2020

Grandad Pig said:
I wonder how many hunt supporters would stand up to defend the ancient field sport of hare coursing?
The locals around here often get very excited about hare coursing but seem sanguine about fox hunting. What’s the difference morally?

I don’t see the point of either by the way, just the opposition to one and not the other seems odd.

Hare coursing is done for gambling reasons,by non locals who often visit from many many miles away to partake in this activity.But they can come back and visit ones farm & or buildings on other occassions.,on a non friendly basis. The local fox pack are just up the road so to speak,and well known that is the obvious difference.

Are hunt and followers exempt from all laws?

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

Member

0 %

Up to 25%

25-50%

50-75%

75-100%

100% I’ve had enough of farming!

Share this page