- Location
- Glen Clova, Angus, DD8 4RD
Lucky escape
- Thread starter onthehoof
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true but he did have a few .303 brownings machine guns which would be quite handy todayTrouble is a spitfire pilot didn’t have a smart phone glued in their hand
kill joy
Oliveau
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- Location
- Indre et Loire, France
Back in the sixties, when I was 16, my harvest job was corn cart with a Super Dexta hitched to a 3 ton trailer. There was as short hill out of the village with about a mile of straight road thereafter lined with houses. So I'd start down the hill in 5th gear and the revs quickly used to go off the clock, despite me standing on the brakes, so quick shift to 6th and still standing on the brakes. Revs off the clock again and no slowing down for at least half a mile. God knows what woukd have happened had a child run out in the road.
Had to wait until the seventies to get a tractor with decent brakes - Muir Hill 101 then a 7000.
Had to wait until the seventies to get a tractor with decent brakes - Muir Hill 101 then a 7000.
TheTallGuy
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- Location
- Cambridgeshire
More pertinent would be to compare average "road hours" or "road miles" per accident between different sectors
This, this and this again. Many young lads just want to drive the best, biggest tractor they can get in. The long harvest hours and always racing from A to B are all part of the challenge/excitement. So it takes someone else to control this and ensure everything is done sensibly and safely. That would be the boss/management. They set the rules and more importantly IMO, the environment in which people work. If your number 1 rule is "Don't keep the combine/forager waiting", then you are the problem, not the lads driving the carts.
- Location
- South Lanarkshire
And if there behaving like twits that's what a size ten boot is for
Hilly
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- Location
- Scottish Borders.
Not just young ones , I know some who go through whole life like that mention of manual Labour bottom lip comes out .
- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Payments per tonne/acre aren't helping boss/management make a change.
itsalwaysme
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- Location
- Cheshire
As you say very different from ferrying grass, but what you didn't mention was that the average age of pilots killed was 22
- Location
- Ledbury, Herefordshire
Also, they had a really high mortality rate, it's a really weird analogy.Trouble is a spitfire pilot didn’t have a smart phone glued in their hand
- Location
- northumberland
Just because you can pass a tractor test at 16 there are still rules n regs as to what you can legally drive on the road, seems a few people just think they can jump onto anything and fly down the road at 50k
- Location
- Bay of Plenty NZ
Not before time, vehicles used on the road should be fit for the road, and I would include bicycles too.
average 4 week survival in the B of BAs you say very different from ferrying grass, but what you didn't mention was that the average age of pilots killed was 22
- Location
- Near Beeston Castle
You were saying people that age should not operate any heavy machinery and especially if under pressure.
My point was they were expected to fly spitfires at that age and that was pressure all right.
It is very easy for old folk to sit and whinge about what teenagers do but we have all been there, we should give them a break now and then. Not condoning reckless behaviour for one minute.
Weight and age limits I would have thought would be a first step...
Tests for fast and heavy... Man and Machine!
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- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
When I was a teenager, it was the older worker who used to knock the 7600 out of stick, going down hill with a 10 ton loaded trailer behind, while I only knocked the tractor out of stick when hauling back to the field empty! So we should not say all older workers are sensible!
I wonder who they are all talking to? I'd love to sit and chat on the phone while I'm driving, hands free of course, but can never think of anyone to ring.
I must just be billy no mates
Its very common with stock truck drivers over here, I can't figure out why, most are top spec, underpants on the outside cabs but they've always got the phone stuck in the ear.
Press a button and talk away you morons, or buy one of those headset things.
See the same with the pimped RR, Audi and BMW brigade a lot. £70K+ car, phone glued to the ear... no Bluetooth system...?
Probably do not know how it works...!
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ollie989898
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In the Pacific theatre, the average age of a B-29 bomber captain (the man in charge of the whole crew) was 21.
TheTallGuy
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- Location
- Cambridgeshire
The training fairly quickly knocked out the worst of the idiots, the first week of ops did for the rest, besides which the youngsters were very well aware of mortality by that stage of the war so were more mindful of their job. The people born since the war have had increasingly sheltered upbringings in comparison - especially those outside of city centre gang life & so are less mindful in their actions - something that has been fairly evident in the last 18 months.