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Bald Rick · Feb 21, 2024

Read this leader in today’s Times … especially the sentence I have highlighted

Aren’t you delighted that not only has the cost of living taken money out of ordinary folks pockets and put it in to ours but we are the source of all Britain’s pollution woes (or so you’d think reading this guff)? And this from a supposedly Tory rag .

And I wonder why I am getting increasingly angry as each day passes.

vantage · Feb 21, 2024

Bald Rick said:
Read this leader in today’s Times … especially the sentence I have highlighted

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Aren’t you delighted that not only has the cost of living taken money out of ordinary folks pockets and put it in to ours but we are the source of all Britain’s pollution woes (or so you’d think reading this guff)? And this from a supposedly Tory rag .

And I wonder why I am getting increasingly angry as each day passes.

Just a thought, who funds that journo’s wages and the Times?

David. · Feb 21, 2024

I find my mental well-being to be much improved since I told The Times where to put their "unavoidable subscriptions increase"
For its undeniable faults, you can get all the headline news for free from The Guardian App, and to be fair to them, they really are not any more anti farming than The Murdoch or the Barclaygraph environmental narratives. And you do not have to read Mr Monbiot if you don't want to.

vantage · Feb 21, 2024

David. said:
I find my mental well-being to be much improved since I told The Times where to put their "unavoidable subscriptions increase"

It should be free with all the ( vested) money behind it.

Bald Rick · Feb 21, 2024

David. said:
I find my mental well-being to be much improved since I told The Times where to put their "unavoidable subscriptions increase"

Whilst you’re undoubtedly right, it is the level of misinformation and downright lies in the leader I find depressing

Macsky · Feb 21, 2024

Bald Rick said:
Read this leader in today’s Times … especially the sentence I have highlighted

View attachment 1165701

Aren’t you delighted that not only has the cost of living taken money out of ordinary folks pockets and put it in to ours but we are the source of all Britain’s pollution woes (or so you’d think reading this guff)? And this from a supposedly Tory rag .

And I wonder why I am getting increasingly angry as each day passes.

Best form of defence is attack. They see what’s happening elsewhere in Europe and are just trying to dampen public support with some preemptive stikes. Expect much more I would say.

slackjawedyokel · Feb 21, 2024

All part of a co-ordinated effort to head-off protests by farmers and turn the general public away from farmers by making out that we are causing lots of pollution so are undeserving of public money.

fudge · Feb 21, 2024

Bald Rick said:
Read this leader in today’s Times … especially the sentence I have highlighted

View attachment 1165701

Aren’t you delighted that not only has the cost of living taken money out of ordinary folks pockets and put it in to ours but we are the source of all Britain’s pollution woes (or so you’d think reading this guff)? And this from a supposedly Tory rag .

And I wonder why I am getting increasingly angry as each day passes.

It’s the Murdoch press telling lies. What a surprise.

Widgetone · Feb 21, 2024

Unfortunately that does sum up the public perception of farmers.
If a desperate PM appears at a farming conference once every other decade, the spotlight will be on farming, hence the Times piece. Also after the recent pics of tractors trundling around Dover and in the EU.

If anything I was surprised the average payout is only £3k pa. The arable estates over here would regard that as a weekly payment!

fudge · Feb 21, 2024

Widgetone said:
Unfortunately that does sum up the public perception of farmers.
If a desperate PM appears at a farming conference once every other decade, the spotlight will be on farming, hence the Times piece. Also after the recent pics of tractors trundling around Dover and in the EU.

If anything I was surprised the average payout is only £3k pa. The arable estates over here would regard that as a weekly payment!

Yeah but the statistics they use regarding the level of pollution from agriculture are dubious in the extreme. For example the published UK emissions don’t include air travel or any military emissions. Furthermore they don’t count emissions produced in other territories in the production of goods and services for UK consumers. Of course the Times doesn’t point out exporting food production won’t reduce the impact on the global environment. It appears to me that having lost the support of many farmers the Tory party will regard farmers as fair game in their “culture wars”. What farmers are doing is legitimately questioning the direction and dishonesty of government policy. The extra few quid Sunak presented yesterday doesn’t devalue their arguments or take away their right to express themselves.

robs1 · Feb 21, 2024

Perhaps we should say, so you don't like the alleged pollution from growing food well , we won't produce anything then, enjoy the queues at your local supermarket when there is no food to buy and the price that it will rise to, get back to us when you see the truth

uztrac · Feb 21, 2024

Farming has two of its best "brand ambassadors" under utilized.
Many folk awaiting the release of Series 3 of Clarksons Farm.
Kaleb on a sold out tour across the UK talking about farming.
This pair have a very positive impact on our non farming population,many of whom DO NOT read "The Times"

Northern territory · Feb 21, 2024

uztrac said:
Farming has two of its best "brand ambassadors" under utilized.
Many folk awaiting the release of Series 3 of Clarksons Farm.
Kaleb on a sold out tour across the UK talking about farming.
This pair have a very positive impact on our non farming population,many of whom DO NOT read "The Times"

Doesn’t clarkson write in the times ?

David. · Feb 21, 2024

The Sunday Times.

uztrac · Feb 21, 2024

Northern territory said:
Doesn’t clarkson write in the times ?

sunday Times broadsheet & supplement, and also The Sun during the week

Northern territory · Feb 21, 2024

uztrac said:
sunday Times broadsheet & supplement, and also The Sun during the week

Sunday times and times will have the same owners though

Kidds · Feb 21, 2024

Let them eat cake

Werzle · Feb 21, 2024

Bald Rick said:
Read this leader in today’s Times … especially the sentence I have highlighted

View attachment 1165701

Aren’t you delighted that not only has the cost of living taken money out of ordinary folks pockets and put it in to ours but we are the source of all Britain’s pollution woes (or so you’d think reading this guff)? And this from a supposedly Tory rag .

And I wonder why I am getting increasingly angry as each day passes.

None of us farmers really want to bugger about doing it because all we want to do is farm , BUT until we all decide to stop selling for one week and show the country what empty shelves look like we will have to put up with this kind of shite. One week of not a single farmer selling anything would do more than any other protests put together. Sell it to the nation as farmers having a week off, its in our power and would work wonders. Make sure we do not send twice as much the week after too. We need to fcking wake up especially with drakeford taking the pee out of us .

uztrac · Feb 21, 2024

Northern territory said:
Sunday times and times will have the same owners though

ST & Times & Sun all owned by News Corporation = Murdoch

Macsky · Feb 21, 2024

Bald Rick said:
Read this leader in today’s Times … especially the sentence I have highlighted

View attachment 1165701

Aren’t you delighted that not only has the cost of living taken money out of ordinary folks pockets and put it in to ours but we are the source of all Britain’s pollution woes (or so you’d think reading this guff)? And this from a supposedly Tory rag .

And I wonder why I am getting increasingly angry as each day passes.

That article is something else really, downright treacherous lies. Do you know what’s gone very quiet? Test and Trace - £37billion of public money spaffed into thin air! Mental

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