Times Leader

Bald Rick

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Livestock Farmer
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Anglesey
@Bald Rick Who wrote the Times leader? That might shed light on the rational behind such a slanted piece. Likely to be one of the usual suspects.

Not credited but I strongly suspect Ben Webster is behind it. I think he’s their environmental correspondent and usually enjoys farmer baiting.

Times are also running a year long “Clean it up“ campaign for cleaner rivers and enjoy bashing both the water companies and farmers. Had a go at “mega” farms recently
 

melted welly

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Arable Farmer
Location
DD9.
Read this leader in today’s Times … especially the sentence I have highlighted

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Aren’t you delighted that not only has the cost of living taken money out of ordinary folks pockets and put it in to ours but we are the source of all Britain’s pollution woes (or so you’d think reading this guff)? And this from a supposedly Tory rag .

And I wonder why I am getting increasingly angry as each day passes.
That article is written in a very knowledgeable fashion which disguises the author‘s position of absolute ignorance of the subject that they’ve written on very well.
 
Lads you're mugs to think Tory = pro farming. The clue was in the rivers bit in the article for a start. The huntin' shootin' fishin' fraternity aren't hugely pro farmer, they are pro hobby. Read up on the exemptions the tories tried to dream up over covid restrictions for grouse shooting and the panic over the ski season being affected.

The party is run by freemarketeers who believe that the market solves all. I've been reading about the New Zealand miracle for 15 years from junk tanks like the IEA and so on. The writing was on the wall years ago.

Pardon my cynicism but I made a conscious decision to go into manufacturing to make things after University and lived to regret it. Watched my contemporaries move into finance, government and services and make loads of money while I was 'downsized' from a job that created actual things.
 

tepapa

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Livestock Farmer
Location
North Wales
Read this leader in today’s Times … especially the sentence I have highlighted

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Aren’t you delighted that not only has the cost of living taken money out of ordinary folks pockets and put it in to ours but we are the source of all Britain’s pollution woes (or so you’d think reading this guff)? And this from a supposedly Tory rag .

And I wonder why I am getting increasingly angry as each day passes.
Not only the sentence you've highlighted. The following one saying that farmers are hampered from diversifying. Why should they diversify inorder to continue producing food for less than COP.
 

primmiemoo

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Location
Devon
Lads you're mugs to think Tory = pro farming. The clue was in the rivers bit in the article for a start. The huntin' shootin' fishin' fraternity aren't hugely pro farmer, they are pro hobby. Read up on the exemptions the tories tried to dream up over covid restrictions for grouse shooting and the panic over the ski season being affected.

The party is run by freemarketeers who believe that the market solves all. I've been reading about the New Zealand miracle for 15 years from junk tanks like the IEA and so on. The writing was on the wall years ago.

Pardon my cynicism but I made a conscious decision to go into manufacturing to make things after University and lived to regret it. Watched my contemporaries move into finance, government and services and make loads of money while I was 'downsized' from a job that created actual things.
The Tory Party has been overrun by what was once its lunatic fringe. The cognitive dissonance within it is detectable from space now it's allowed racists, liars, traitors, profiteers to hold actual government powers.
 
I find my mental well-being to be much improved since I told The Times where to put their "unavoidable subscriptions increase"
For its undeniable faults, you can get all the headline news for free from The Guardian App, and to be fair to them, they really are not any more anti farming than The Murdoch or the Barclaygraph environmental narratives. And you do not have to read Mr Monbiot if you don't want to.

Telegraph is 75p a month. Keeps you in touch with the day to day media nonsense
 

Exfarmer

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Location
Bury St Edmunds
I find my mental well-being to be much improved since I told The Times where to put their "unavoidable subscriptions increase"
For its undeniable faults, you can get all the headline news for free from The Guardian App, and to be fair to them, they really are not any more anti farming than The Murdoch or the Barclaygraph environmental narratives. And you do not have to read Mr Monbiot if you don't want to.
I think the Guardian is going behind a paywall too
 

Hindsight

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Location
Lincolnshire
I think the Guardian is going behind a paywall too

Funny old world. Farmers complain they are price takers not price makers. Are Newspaper not the same these days since the entry into market and rise of the 'free' news on the internet. As we see with all (?) mainstream newpapers running at a loss. Expensive to man and run a quality broadsheet paper title. Bit like farming maybe!
 

SFI - What % were you taking out of production?

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Expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive offer for farmers published

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Expanded Sustainable Farming Incentive offer from July will give the sector a clear path forward and boost farm business resilience.

From: Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs and The Rt Hon Sir Mark Spencer MP Published21 May 2024

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Full details of the expanded and improved Sustainable Farming Incentive (SFI) offer available to farmers from July have been published by the...
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