Iceland giving loans to buy the weekly shop.

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
I hope some of these sharks get a haircut when their customers declare themselves bankrupt. Sounds like folk need help to manage money rather than borrow more.
Was hearing on the BBC of folks living in poverty on “only” £23k a year,,,,,, almost my double drawings for my living costs!
 

primmiemoo

Member
Location
Devon
On the slate. Put on the tab. Weekly or monthly account.There always was some give in the system of food retail until the supermarkets came to dominate demanding cash on the nail. Not all of us have a credit card.

Loans, otoh, can be the thin end of a super-slippery slope. It will be interesting to see how Iceland decides who to take on, and how it deals with inevitable defaults.
 

ffukedfarmer

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
West Kent
I hope some of these sharks get a haircut when their customers declare themselves bankrupt. Sounds like folk need help to manage money rather than borrow more.
Was hearing on the BBC of folks living in poverty on “only” £23k a year,,,,,, almost my double drawings for my living costs!

With the greatest of respect I think you need a bit of a reality check. My mortgage and council tax alone would near enough swallow up a £23k salary.
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
I hope some of these sharks get a haircut when their customers declare themselves bankrupt. Sounds like folk need help to manage money rather than borrow more.
Was hearing on the BBC of folks living in poverty on “only” £23k a year,,,,,, almost my double drawings for my living costs!

My drawings wouldn’t be anywhere near that, but I also appreciate that many of my ‘living costs’ are paid for by the business. As a saddo, I do very little mileage that isn’t to do with the business in some way, and my (farmhouse) rent is included in the farm. My wife pays for all the food, from the wage the business pays her.
 

Yale

Member
Livestock Farmer
My drawings wouldn’t be anywhere near that, but I also appreciate that many of my ‘living costs’ are paid for by the business. As a saddo, I do very little mileage that isn’t to do with the business in some way, and my (farmhouse) rent is included in the farm. My wife pays for all the food, from the wage the business pays her.
And yet the average ‘Monty’ resident would look at you and think ‘feather bedded farmer’ just the same as we would look at the guy with the £80k BMW on the drive and think ‘he’s doing well’.

You rent your farm but he probably rents most of his life, on balance I know which I would rather be.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
My drawings wouldn’t be anywhere near that, but I also appreciate that many of my ‘living costs’ are paid for by the business. As a saddo, I do very little mileage that isn’t to do with the business in some way, and my (farmhouse) rent is included in the farm. My wife pays for all the food, from the wage the business pays her.
wouldn't your accountant adjust for your living costs and farmhouse rent and show it as drawings ?
 

neilo

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Montgomeryshire
wouldn't your accountant adjust for your living costs and farmhouse rent and show it as drawings ?

A small amount is allocated as drawings (proportion of leccy, farmhouse heating, etc), but farmhouses included in rent are allowed wholly as business, or so he tells me. I have a stipulation that the tenant has to live in the house, so I don't have any choice.

Apart from food and drink, I'm quite cheap to keep. :) Having livestock, I don't do expensive skiing holidays and, having some arable, I don't do expensive summer holidays... :ROFLMAO:
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
I hope some of these sharks get a haircut when their customers declare themselves bankrupt. Sounds like folk need help to manage money rather than borrow more.
Was hearing on the BBC of folks living in poverty on “only” £23k a year,,,,,, almost my double drawings for my living costs!
In the real world:

Energy £4k
House (mortgage/ rent) £10k
Council tax £2k
Transport £5k
Telephone, internet etc £1k
Food ???

Life is much easier if the business (taxman) helps out but that’s not really an option for most people.
 

Jrp221

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Cornwall
In the real world:

Energy £4k
House (mortgage/ rent) £10k
Council tax £2k
Transport £5k
Telephone, internet etc £1k
Food ???

Life is much easier if the business (taxman) helps out but that’s not really an option for most people.
Don't forget alot of working families will also be paying for childcare, DIL went for a job with Next, she would have taken home £3/hr after paying for childcare. I really feel for young families on middle bracket incomes. Not qualifying for much help but need to work to pay the bills.
I do think with interest rates being so low for so long and our food being comparatively cheap compared to other countries peoples priorities have changed. It often seems the norm to have cars on finance, holidays etc? Many, tied into non essential costs which they are going to struggle to find.
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
In the real world:

Energy £4k
House (mortgage/ rent) £10k
Council tax £2k
Transport £5k
Telephone, internet etc £1k
Food ???

Life is much easier if the business (taxman) helps out but that’s not really an option for most people.
anyone could start their own business and work from home their home then partly becomes their business and quite rightly goes against tax just the same as where most of the people in your example work those business premises will go against tax which is a good job or they probably wouldn't have a job
 

Henarar

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Somerset
Don't forget alot of working families will also be paying for childcare, DIL went for a job with Next, she would have taken home £3/hr after paying for childcare. I really feel for young families on middle bracket incomes. Not qualifying for much help but need to work to pay the bills.
I do think with interest rates being so low for so long and our food being comparatively cheap compared to other countries peoples priorities have changed. It often seems the norm to have cars on finance, holidays etc? Many, tied into non essential costs which they are going to struggle to find.
perhaps not have kids if you can't afford them ?
 

Highland Mule

Member
Livestock Farmer
anyone could start their own business and work from home their home then partly becomes their business and quite rightly goes against tax just the same as where most of the people in your example work those business premises will go against tax which is a good job or they probably wouldn't have a job
Anyone could? Not if you need an income in the meantime and/or have limited skills to sell. Life is not easy out there, so let’s not pretend it is.
 

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