yer they will rot from the top
What are the options for fencing posts now?
- Thread starter johnspeehs
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From spring 2023, fence posts treated with Creosote will be banned from being placed on sale. The only authorised continued use for Creosote-treated timber is for railway sleepers and utility poles for electricity and telecommunications.
well thats ok then
can still buy coal tar creosote so bit of a pointless exercise
well thats ok then
can still buy coal tar creosote so bit of a pointless exercise
organicguy
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- Location
- North East of the south west
Unfortunately it does. The first posts I creo dipped 10+ years ago I dipped the point. Ground level is ok but won't hold a staple as tops have rotted.
john432
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- Location
- Carmarthenshire
Think I'll just have to saw up the old oak trees that are on the farm. Is it a loss? This autumn the acorns were poisoning animals.. why leave them standing for the stranger who will be on this farm when I pop my clogs? And plenty of farmland being planted within a few miles , so no habitat problem... The pluses heart of oak posts will last 40 + years, and get plenty of good firewood.
- Location
- Northumberlandia
most of mine & some is all of that now 10yr plus are still ok (I think) a lot hidden under hedging now mind.
that shelters posts a lot.
But the early posts i never dipped quite a few have all rotted at ground level.
Using NET its not the end of the world & a lot of my fences there is no stock near some.
- Location
- Petworth, West Sussex
We distribute recycled plastic fence posts, which have an expected service life of 50+ years. We find the main obstacle is price (an 80mm round is £12+VAT and a 100mm round £19+VAT, both 1750mm/5'9"). It looks similar to wood, and you can staple and screw into it. But you must spike the holes first unless you have butter-soft ground.
It makes sense for those looking for a very long-life fence to consider plastic, as the whole life cost should be less than that of timber.
With regard to timber treatment the replacement for creo will be copper oil, but apparently the UK plants have very limited capacity at present.
Y Fan Wen
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- Location
- N W Snowdonia
I made the decision to go steel in 2015 and use a mixture of Clipex and Hampton Versalock.
- Location
- Petworth, West Sussex
How have you found the metal fencing?
the environmental waste of Increased use of natural resource's (fossil fuels) will be 3 times that in the current poor chemical treatments over previously ( well (dry wood /pressure ) treated ) CCA treated , biggest thing to me though is that doing the work three times or 6 is more wearing than once or twice and obviously im more free and qualified to say that than a fencing contractor who doesnt supply either.
relativly easier to work with, and doesnt need no where near such big knockers
- Location
- Petworth, West Sussex
The Association of Fencing Industries (AFI) are looking for farmers/contractors who have experienced premature failure in timber posts:
Post Failure Samples - AFI - Association of Fencing Industries
Post Failure Samples - The Association of Fencing Industries exists to promote safety, quality and professionalism throughout the fencing industry.
afiorg.uk
- Location
- North Wales
Copper oil will not be a replacement for creo. It may replace copper tanalith but not creo. Don't believe the marketing
- Location
- Bedfordshire
Ive wondered that before, when people were fencing in the drought last year, it can’t be doing the posts a lot of good.
Welcome to the whacky world that is 2023. Thanks for the info though. Forewarned and all that. I’m off to order 10 years’ supply of Norwegian Pine and some IBCs of creosote. I was looking for a new hobby anyway. I’ll beat inflation that way too
Willie adie
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
I just picked up half dozen octoposts, the distributor said we will know in July if we are banning in the UK.
He said octoposts have an alternative ready to go
He said octoposts have an alternative ready to go
Willie adie
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- Location
- Aberdeenshire
Without doubt, if it's too dry warranty void,
Too wet warranty void
Too cold warranty void.
Certain chapper used warranty void.
If you make hole in post warranty void.
If you had a pee when you woke up warranty void.
If you got a ride in last week warranty void
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
My father used to deal in oak and chestnut cleft fence posts. The tanalised soft wood only took over because they were cheaper and pressure from the environmentalists who were dead against them chopping down trees.
now 50 years later the environmentalists are chopping the same trees down for wood chip as it is good for nature.
of course 50 years ago the post makers paid for the privilege of harvesting the coppice now the harvesters are paid big money to do the job.
just needs some of the old boys with the skills
now 50 years later the environmentalists are chopping the same trees down for wood chip as it is good for nature.
of course 50 years ago the post makers paid for the privilege of harvesting the coppice now the harvesters are paid big money to do the job.
just needs some of the old boys with the skills
fencing is hard enough with out all that extra work
- Location
- Carmarthenshire, West Wales
I have 12 km of fences on the farm here, if each fence lasts 30 years, that is 400m of fencing to be replaced each year, 10 years worth of fencing bought in one go makes me put my head in my hands! That would be 1000 posts!Welcome to the whacky world that is 2023. Thanks for the info though. Forewarned and all that. I’m off to order 10 years’ supply of Norwegian Pine and some IBCs of creosote. I was looking for a new hobby anyway. I’ll beat inflation that way too
I may buy a pallet of creosote post (I think that is 120 in a pack), but that will have to do!
- Location
- Petworth, West Sussex
If you only have to do it once in your lifetime I consider it worth the effort - better than having to replace your fence posts every 5-10 years.