16ft tri axle flat bed , cage sides . Ifor , nugent or others

spikeislander · Oct 12, 2023

Hi there just pricing up a new trailer .
had ifors for years but leaning towards a nugent but looking for experience with any really.
opinions welcome .
16 ft tri axle , ramps and cage sides . thankyou for replies .

grainboy · Oct 12, 2023

Mark C · Oct 12, 2023

I bought a new Bateson last year . The electrics are absolute crap. Had to have the whole thing rewired pretty much to make it road legal after the terminals all corroded in the connectors within 6 months and kept blowing fuses in the towing vehicle. Bateson wouldn’t stand by it as said I needed to take it back for them to fix. Not sure how I was supposed to do that legally as had no lights !

spikeislander · Oct 12, 2023

Any views on the Brian James connect ? Just looked at one and it looked pretty good , tilt bed with little tail ramp .

spikeislander · Oct 12, 2023

grainboy said:
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Yes I’ve seen this but a bit short and wider than needed . Thanks though

Matt L · Oct 12, 2023

spikeislander said:
Any views on the Brian James connect ? Just looked at one and it looked pretty good , tilt bed with little tail ramp .

Have one at work. 21ft long and 8ft wide. Tri axle tilt bead. Very flexible trailer along its length when driving on rough roads and electrics cause enough hassle that I’m going to re wire it this winter.
very rough ride when empty as any tri axle but great when loaded.

Dave W · Oct 12, 2023

Matt L said:
Have one at work. 21ft long and 8ft wide. Tri axle tilt bead. Very flexible trailer along its length when driving on rough roads and electrics cause enough hassle that I’m going to re wire it this winter.
very rough ride when empty as any tri axle but great when loaded.

Just out of curiosity do you know what that will weigh empty?

Matt L · Oct 12, 2023

I can’t remember to be honest. I want to say it’s about 1200kg from memory. will see if I can find a plate on it tomorrow.

spikeislander · Oct 12, 2023

I thought leds would make the wiring better? disappointing that it’s not better!
at 16 ft I don’t think I’ll get the body flex you have though?
looking at the nugent tilt bed but I’m not sure they do tri axle?
But like the way the cage sides fold down as I’ll have to lift the others off to load over side .
rep says nugent will always be a bit dearer but better?

grainboy · Oct 12, 2023

Wouldn’t touch Nugent with a barge pole,
Or I just had a bad one,

Lakesdigger · Oct 12, 2023

spikeislander said:
I thought leds would make the wiring better? disappointing that it’s not better!
at 16 ft I don’t think I’ll get the body flex you have though?
looking at the nugent tilt bed but I’m not sure they do tri axle?
But like the way the cage sides fold down as I’ll have to lift the others off to load over side .
rep says nugent will always be a bit dearer but better?

Leds are only the bit on the end of the wiring it's all the cheapo bits in between which are the problem. Tbh a lot of the led light units are cheap junk which let water in. Last two ifor trailers i bought (one now over 10 the other about 8 year old) could have been led but i opted for rubbolite lights and other than the odd bulb I've had no wiring problems.

Matt L · Oct 12, 2023

spikeislander said:
I thought leds would make the wiring better? disappointing that it’s not better!
at 16 ft I don’t think I’ll get the body flex you have though?
looking at the nugent tilt bed but I’m not sure they do tri axle?
But like the way the cage sides fold down as I’ll have to lift the others off to load over side .
rep says nugent will always be a bit dearer but better?

The light units are ok. It’s the connectors and cable runs that cause the problems.

spikeislander · Oct 12, 2023

Well Brian james are built at daventry which is pretty local to me , so any issues I’ll take it back to them ! They were bragging about new factories etc so horn hopefully they’ve upped their game on the wiring .

spikeislander · Oct 13, 2023

grainboy said:
Wouldn’t touch Nugent with a barge pole,
Or I just had a bad one,

Hi Terry , any reasons ? I value your opinion as I know you use them to their max .
Ifors on a 9 month wait if you want tri axle

Fendt516profi · Oct 13, 2023

Brand New Ifor Williams LM166 Tri-Axle Flatbed Trailer 16ft x 6ft 6in Extras | eBay

MODEL - LM166. 3,500kg Gross Weight. Spare Wheel.

www.ebay.co.uk

Dave W · Oct 13, 2023

Fendt516profi said:
Brand New Ifor Williams LM166 Tri-Axle Flatbed Trailer 16ft x 6ft 6in Extras | eBay

MODEL - LM166. 3,500kg Gross Weight. Spare Wheel.

www.ebay.co.uk

Greedy fudgers! That’s £1k more than a new one

Fendt516profi · Oct 13, 2023

Dave W said:
Greedy fudgers! That’s £1k more than a new one

So you can definitely get a new one for 1k less than that? When I ordered a Ifor i was told price, then a couple of months later I was told it was going up and would be whatever it was when it came

grainboy · Oct 13, 2023

spikeislander said:
Hi Terry , any reasons ? I value your opinion as I know you use them to their max .
Ifors on a 9 month wait if you want tri axle

I ordered, from a Nugent dealer, on day of collecting I paid in full,
Then on viewing on collection, noticed, a list of problems, bad galvanising, curvature to side rail, etc, refused to take trailer,
They then refused to replace, correct or reimburse, Shaun Nugent refused to acknowledge problems, had to issue solicitor, finally was reimbursed.
it’s really not the way to do business,

Dave W · Oct 13, 2023

Fendt516profi said:
So you can definitely get a new one for 1k less than that? When I ordered a Ifor i was told price, then a couple of months later I was told it was going up and would be whatever it was when it came

I don’t know to the penny how much a new one is. I don’t have anything to do with ifor. But I can take an educated guess. That trailer won’t be over £5k.

Highland Mule · Oct 13, 2023

I priced an LM166 in early 2019 - £2440 +vat for trailer and headboard. Sides and cages extra, obviously, and that's four years ago.

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