Farm Office ideas

Oldmacdonald

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Mixed Farmer
Location
Scotland
There are a few houses about now that have that composite timber lookalike cladding I presume because the developers have used external insulation and need something to hide it behind. It doesn't rot or need painting so may be worth a look. Could be matched to UPVC or aluminium windows etc. I guess brick or stone or even painted render etc would fit with it if it was all done carefully. An architect might be able to design something for not stupid money.

Have you met many architects?
 

onesiedale

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Livestock Farmer
Location
Derbyshire
Question as above, what’s your set up?

currently have an office in the house which isn’t horrendous but does mean there’s a mess all the time and it’s not really big enough. Plus I’d like to turn it back in to a dining room!

first thought was a site office type thing but would like it not to be an eye soar. I do tend to spend quite allot of time in the office doing not only the farm bits and pieces but I run another Buisness too which is 90% office based so wants to be big enough and comfy enough I want to be in there.

I then stumbled over timber framed garage type things with over head room. Kills several birds with one stone, it’s ascetically pleasing, gives us a garage type arrangement to put the cars and some logs etc under dry storage and has an over head office.

Anyone use similar, or have a better idea? I’m aware the garage idea isn’t going to be as cheap or quick as a container type arrangement but I’d rather spend the money on something nice that will last and not look like something off a building site.
Post in thread 'Steel Framed Structure for sale' https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index.php?threads/steel-framed-structure-for-sale.393313/post-8828141
 

Ffermer Bach

Member
Livestock Farmer
The second anyone was working part or full time in an office space I would want it separate from the house as well so they can come and go without involving me whatsoever. I get your thinking. By the sounds of it a standalone building with possible easy extension in future would be warranted.
If you are planning to employ someone, it is worth thinking about the welfare facilities needed for that employee, I have pasted these off the HSE guidance for welfare facilities in agriculture, so possible having an external office with toilet, washing facilities, bait room etc is future proofing the business.

Toilet and welfare facilities in agriculture​

If you employ anyone (however short the period) you must provide adequate and appropriate welfare facilities for them while they are at work. 'Welfare facilities' include:

  • clean, well-ventilated toilets;
  • wash basins with hot and cold (or warm) running water, soap and towels (or a hand dryer);
  • portable toilet and washing facilities for workers working away from base;
  • changing facilities where special clothing is worn;
  • drinking water; and
  • somewhere to rest and eat meals.

Use of toilet and washing facilities within dwellings​

If you have just one employee, it may be acceptable for them to use either the facilities in their home or the home of the employer, provided that:

  • the home is located on, or very close to, the site;
  • the facilities are accessible from the outside, eg with no need to enter the house, and the washing facilities are not in areas used for food preparation;
  • the facilities are available during working hours, even if the occupant of the house is out; and
  • there are agreed arrangements, for replenishing paper, soap, towels, etc and cleaning the toilets and washing facilities.
Where up to three people are employed, it may be acceptable to extend the above arrangements, if:

  • proper arrangements, preferably in writing, and including replenishment of soap, paper, cleaning, etc, are agreed with staff; and
  • employees are content with the arrangements; and
  • management appear to have the ability and will to make the arrangements work properly.
 

PI Stsker

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
To be fair, in a quarry they are surely pretty stiff because if something goes wrong it's going to go wrong in a big way.
Bear in mind drivers arnt allowed out of the cab unless escorted by quarry employees, the drivers still need full high viz top and bottom, hard hat, glasses, lace up boots etc. along with a generic safety course; site specific safety brief etc .
In regard to it going wrong in a big way I’d argue if you were hit by a 100t dumper or the 100hp feeder tractor at home on the farm, your not going to be having a great day.
 

L P

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Newbury
Don't forget that through having your farm office in the house you can put a portion of otherwise domestic expenses through the business, such as heating, electricity etc.
Quite, it has its value... but a laptop and all the neat files in one room in the house constitutes a farm office, I have a mezzanine in the workshop which I do most of mine in, it's warm, messy and quiet.
 
Bear in mind drivers arnt allowed out of the cab unless escorted by quarry employees, the drivers still need full high viz top and bottom, hard hat, glasses, lace up boots etc. along with a generic safety course; site specific safety brief etc .
In regard to it going wrong in a big way I’d argue if you were hit by a 100t dumper or the 100hp feeder tractor at home on the farm, your not going to be having a great day.

I used to live opposite a guy who worked in one of the quarries. An accident in one is complex because it's got so many moving parts and dangers. I don't think they ordinarily let their own machine operators out of the cabin. He told me that on his site if you want to get out for a pee you have to radio for a guy and he comes and picks you up in a Discovery 4x4 to take you back to the main office. As the truck makes it's way around the site it has to radio nearby machine operators so they completely stop to allow him to pass by. They obviously don't want truck drivers or contractors or anyone else wondering around the site on foot either. He explained that just walking near the piles of material, processed or unprocessed would get you a rollicking because they are loose and unstable, let alone the machinery or anything else. The nature of the quarry also made any access by the emergency services very problematic.
 

Fellstoflats

Member
Livestock Farmer
We had one of those Eliot building things kicking about, so when the powers that be decided they wanted an office, it was craned into the garden on a concrete pad.

8 years on, we've nearly finished thinking about cladding it...
 

PI Stsker

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
I used to live opposite a guy who worked in one of the quarries. An accident in one is complex because it's got so many moving parts and dangers. I don't think they ordinarily let their own machine operators out of the cabin. He told me that on his site if you want to get out for a pee you have to radio for a guy and he comes and picks you up in a Discovery 4x4 to take you back to the main office. As the truck makes it's way around the site it has to radio nearby machine operators so they completely stop to allow him to pass by. They obviously don't want truck drivers or contractors or anyone else wondering around the site on foot either. He explained that just walking near the piles of material, processed or unprocessed would get you a rollicking because they are loose and unstable, let alone the machinery or anything else. The nature of the quarry also made any access by the emergency services very problematic.
Yeah you got it in one. Been a fair few years since I’ve been in myself but the amount of risk assessments, method statements, consent forms and everything else I’ve got to sign I can’t imagine it’s got any less stringent.
 

Stroppymonkey

Member
Trade
Security and size would surely be two key considerations. I don't know what businesses you run or are involved with but it may pay to have a larger office space than first thought in case you forsee a need to employ additional people who also require an office space. I know of one farm, just as an example, where the foreman had his own office cubicle, with computer and IP phone/answer phone etc so he could liaise with grain merchants for corn collections, fert deliveries and the agronomist. The farmer had near zero involvement with any of this himself.

I do like the look of that combined office and car garage thing. It doesn't need to be oak framed or actually fancy- two oak legs at the front could hold up an otherwise conventional office building made of beams, brick or blocks with insulation and composite or oak or whatever boarding over the top. Roof of tiles to suit/match with surrounding buildings.

You'll never have too much natural light in an office space so floor to ceiling windows or skylights may be desirable. If it's insulated, window'ed and door'ed properly attaching an air con unit to the side/rear won't be daft expensive to run.

Kitchen, bait room and loo +/- shower or wet room may be desirable for those with dogs/livestock.

Laying a conduit to the new building before it its built to carry fibre/RJ45, leccy, phone extension from the house, etc may be useful.

I dare say following the cancellation of HS2 there will be a fair few portacabins or welfare units looking for homes in the near future.
Portacabins have been like gold dust since 2020. Lots popping up now. Just got a localish 28x10 very clean cabin with a new 120mm PIR insulated GRP roof for 3500inc plus £750 haulage. Cheap space compared to a log cabin... buying the kit is only about 25% of the actual finished cost.
 

PI Stsker

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
South West
Portacabins have been like gold dust since 2020. Lots popping up now. Just got a localish 28x10 very clean cabin with a new 120mm PIR insulated GRP roof for 3500inc plus £750 haulage. Cheap space compared to a log cabin... buying the kit is only about 25% of the actual finished cost.
As I’ve mentioned before I’m not too fussy what type of building it is I just don’t want it to look like a building site and be relatively ascetically pleasing sat by the house. There’s plenty of 38x12 modular type offices for sale for not stupid money, I just worry about the longevity of them as they are labelled as temporary offices, I’d want something permanent and to last a long time haha, and ofcorse the security of them. It dosnt look like it would take much to cut a hole in the side of them and whip out all of the tech inside. (I’m abit of a tech nerd so there’s plenty of gadgets and gizmos that sticky fingers would like)
 

Stroppymonkey

Member
Trade
Temporary means it gets around planning. A good well built and well maintained portacabin should last at least 25 plus years. Usually its the roofs that let them down. My old log cabin office is nearly 20 years old and I've moved house with that 4 times!
 

steveR

Member
Mixed Farmer
Temporary means it gets around planning. A good well built and well maintained portacabin should last at least 25 plus years. Usually its the roofs that let them down. My old log cabin office is nearly 20 years old and I've moved house with that 4 times!
I have one here that I got for the price of haulage cost 20 odd years ago. It looked like someone had dropped a bag of sand on the roof when it arrived. I got some square profile roof sheets, and screwed them to the cabin, not a drop of water has come in since fitting!

The floor area and vermin, are another matter!
 

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