A visit from the Travellers Caravan Club

[Grassman]

Do they bother with insurance or tax or mot ???

To me if the police don't persue them for that but they do us then surely that is a form of discrimination.

 

[Al R]

61 posts and he’s mentioned

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

If the British Government continues to fail protecting its citizens and their property there will come a time when the people will protect it for themselves. Not a good prospect. Come on government wake up. We need more police and more importantly they need to be better lead and have the support of the courts and law.

Interestingly enough had a email through from our crime commissioner outlining the use of reasonable force in case of home invasion any one else receive the same?

I've been saying this for a while now. They'll cross the wrong person and dead gypsys will start being found. It's not something I'd condone but I'd understand it.

 

[borderterribles]

Do they bother with insurance or tax or mot ???

No real idea whether they do , or not, but pretty sure they don't. As said before, the law is for the law abiding only in the UK. The authorities are only interested if you have tangible assets and they know where you live. A shameful situation, in my opinion

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

Do they bother with insurance or tax or mot ???

Like the rest of society, some do, some don't.

Some are actually reasonably decent folk but many aren't.

 

[Still Farming]

Good and bad everywhere.
But when Do a DVLA tax and MOT checker on anything "funny", and usually have a Surprise ?
Lucky the reg. No. Is the same "type or make" vehicle most times ?
Allegedly.
https://www.gov.uk/check-vehicle-tax
https://www.gov.uk/check-mot-status

 

[PostHarvest]

Do they bother with insurance or tax or mot ???

Years ago - it must have been as it was in the days when there were tax discs and police stations - there was a big gypsy funeral in Doncaster. One concerned citizen noticed the town was full of assorted vehicles, none of which carried a tax disc. He made a list of all the licence plates and dropped it on the front desk in the police station. He was asked "how do you expect us to prosecute anyone who has no fixed address?" - Case closed. He took his list to the local paper, but it still got him no-where.

 

[marshbarn]

Years ago - it must have been as it was in the days when there were tax discs and police stations - there was a big gypsy funeral in Doncaster. One concerned citizen noticed the town was full of assorted vehicles, none of which carried a tax disc. He made a list of all the licence plates and dropped it on the front desk in the police station. He was asked "how do you expect us to prosecute anyone who has no fixed address?" - Case closed. He took his list to the local paper, but it still got him no-where.

You can have your car towed away and crushed for no mot or tax.
If the police did that it would soon get them in to line,

 

[Still Farming]

You can have your car towed away and crushed for no mot or tax.
If the police did that it would soon get them in to line,

Get more as scrap they worth most of em !

 

[Farmer996]

Thought I'd post this link to another thread on the same subject, in case any of you have missed it:

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index...nd-without-consent-a-criminal-offence.234870/

Looks like it will at least get a Government response. Whether it makes a difference is another matter but I've signed it anyway.

 

[Still Farming]

Thought I'd post this link to another thread on the same subject, in case any of you have missed it:

https://thefarmingforum.co.uk/index...nd-without-consent-a-criminal-offence.234870/

Looks like it will at least get a Government response. Whether it makes a difference is another matter but I've signed it anyway.

Think these threads need put as one and action plans if worst happens on our farms and correct approach and protocols in bullet point to address swift responce and evictions asap

 

[fred.950]

Love that film [emoji1360]

 

[Cheesehead]

Napalm is the answer

Lots and lots of napalm

See my earlier comment, the law is for the law abiding. The police don't bother as it's not worth the trouble to them.

The trouble is when they do they get a load paperwork and then the culprit gets a suspended sentence or something like 2 months.

One of our neighbours was a copper and one day he came back in a foul mood and told us "No offence but I f@£#&¢$ hate farmers, they bitch and whine when are we going to do something about them because they've nicked their quad. We raid a site recovered 8 quads and a mule I spent all day going around to the farms they had been stolen from after the serial numbers were matched and every single stated that it couldn't be theirs for nine different reason because they wanted to keep the shiny new one claimed off the insurance and didn't want the old beat up one so we had to give them back and let the sods go."

They also have to be very careful what they say and do or they can get in a heap of trouble and it can be other ambitious officers that cause the problems my uncle is a sergeant and basically conducts interviews a colleague whom had already got one of his friends dismissed complained that he had used racist language while in an interview. It went through several channels before with the video of the interview showing the allegations were false it was dropped and the guy who had filed it was just shunted to another area. A friend of our neighbours is serving a sentance for abh after he used force to sit a junky down on a bench that was off his head and flailing around so he didn't injure himself or them and the young officer just finishing their training filed a complaint for excessive force and abuse of a public position. It went to the high court and though the junkie said he had expected worse and didn't want to press charges, he has now lost all his pension he has with court cost, legal fees etc lost his home and savings and is now serving time in prison with those he had helped put in there.

 

[Ley253]

The police are already on record rejecting this! The stated reason is the Criminalising of poss innocent people. The real reason? Probably the fact that a law such as this would remove most of the rules they hide behind, forcing them to do something.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Desert camo might actually work at the moment
Glad we don't have any vermin that I can't shoot (at)

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

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Desert camo might actually work at the moment
Glad we don't have any vermin that I can't shoot (at)

 

[Still Farming]

They like to say "nothing to do with us ",because its a civil NOT criminal case.
Hate crime and intimidation against landowners is criminal.

 

[Kiwi Pete]

They like to say "nothing to do with us ",because its a civil NOT criminal case.
Hate crime and intimidation against landowners is criminal.

Of course it is.
Unfortunately if you have an address, then both sides can target you - and they both have no right to.
Are theft and wiful damage not criminal matters, then so it stands that intimidation and criminal nuisance are criminal matters?

It will only be a matter of time and someone will wind up dead, that's hardly "civil"

 

[melted welly]

Isnt it the case that a fixed address is a basic requirement to obtain motor insurance anyway?

We had a visit from some gentlemen of the night one evening whom I followed, got reg number and a picture of driver. Chap said he'd been trying t buy a dog and had gotten lost trying to get back to Dundee............so down a farm track and twice round the yard would be the obvious route to try.

Phoned police who came out pretty quick, and the officer said the van was fully taxed, insured and had mot, but he didn't hold much hope of finding them as they use po boxes or own an empty flat somewhere that they use as permanent address.

 

[Still Farming]

We had a visit from some gentlemen of the night one evening whom I followed, got reg number and a picture of driver. Chap said he'd been trying t buy a dog and had gotten lost trying to get back to Dundee............so down a farm track and twice round the yard would be the obvious route to try.

Phoned police who came out pretty quick, and the officer said the van was fully taxed, insured and had mot, but he didn't hold much hope of finding them as they use po boxes or own an empty flat somewhere that they use as permanent address.

Or they got 5 of the same van and plate ,but only 1, taxed and moted Allegedly