As with many things, they can't fill a bottle that is not safe, so the paid checks are somewhat of a cash spinner, as ADR2019 comes into play.
I am also led to believe it is 10 years for cylinder testing
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As with many things, they can't fill a bottle that is not safe, so the paid checks are somewhat of a cash spinner, as ADR2019 comes into play.
I am also led to believe it is 10 years for cylinder testing
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- Montgomeryshire
As with many things, they can't fill a bottle that is not safe, so the paid checks are somewhat of a cash spinner, as ADR2019 comes into play.
I am also led to believe it is 10 years for cylinder testing
I have no doubt the mandatory checks are a ‘cash spinner’, as with most things done in the name of ‘safety’. Maybe the guy that told me 5 years was trying even harder to milk the job? He was only taking them to a dive shop (50 miles away) to get them filled though, once he had a few to take.
Who knows Neil, but I've been led to believe it is mandatory 10 years but it is a vague end date due to not being a dive cylinder regulator.
There is a state referred in some references as to being 5 years due to a caveat that Air Rifle cylinders being classed in a sector that needs 5 year cert as it is a mobile above ground unit, but the onus is to ensure one checks the collar, as it should show last test, and if the test comes in between fills - don't do it.
If you fill your own bottle - there is no requirement, as you take the responsibility?
Grey area.
Edit: following on from Neil's post, went and read through some data on this as @neilo post raised doubts to the accuracy of the guidance I was given being compliant and as it is safety related needed to be clear and it reads like the following:
Dive cylinders - actually used for diving - alternates between visual and hydrostatic testing every 2.5 years
Cylinder used to fill PCP Rifle - no 2.5 year visual, every 5 years if you are using commercial filling stations
PCP Rifle Cylinder - reads they should be tested every 10 years but appears not compulsory for testsing as it is low volume (2x2 rule)
Cylinder Used to fill PCP Rifle & DIY filling of said cylinder - self regulation it appears no regs to ensure you need to follow anything. Buy your own compressor and away you go.
Non Portable - every 10 years
So with the above - as Neil stated, if using a commercial filling station it would be every 5 years mandatory testing or they will not refill it.
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Scholsey
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- Herefordshire
Just done a bit of white dove and rat control in buildings/around silage pits/slurry lagoon with the my .22LR semi auto and photon nightsight (after 30 shots to zero the bloody thing), rifle cost £200 sight £400, haven’t used a air rifle since I was 11.
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- Near Beeston Castle
Semi auto are notoriously inaccurate. Good fun and a waste of bullets (can't help shooting the whole magazine off) but rarely accurate.
Having tried most small calibre variations I have settled on a short barrelled silenced 22 bolt action. Cheap and cheerful CZ which is more accurate than me.
Scholsey
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- Herefordshire
got a 1022 Ruger and must admit I bought it because I had a feeling.22 semi’s might not be so easy to acquire going forward. Got a bolt .17hmr for accuracy can put 5 shots in 50p piece at 100 yards with no wind but it’s not as fun as shooting running rats with the semi.
exmoor dave
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I had a Buckmark .22lr semi auto for a while, it was brilliant fun and a smashing rabbit gun for shooting from the passenger side in the landy.
It was surprisingly accurate and cycled rounds pretty well.
But having to pick spent shells up got abit annoying and I wanted a centre fire so the buckmark was traded in...... do miss that rifle though
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- East Sussex
how do you get on with them pinging around the yard? Perhaps you use shorts?
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- Aberdeenshire
Despite owning a .22rf they are the one class of firearm I most distrust. Ricochet is the worst of any projectile weapon made and too many folk underestimate just how lethal they are.
A friend spent a very uneasy year being dragged through the legal system after a freak ricochet hit a woman hundreds of yards away and almost on a level with his firing position. Despite striking a rock and travelling a great distance the round still entered above her knee and almost made it to her hip. It wasn't even a Stinger or other supersonic round, it was a humble Eley sub'.
A friend spent a very uneasy year being dragged through the legal system after a freak ricochet hit a woman hundreds of yards away and almost on a level with his firing position. Despite striking a rock and travelling a great distance the round still entered above her knee and almost made it to her hip. It wasn't even a Stinger or other supersonic round, it was a humble Eley sub'.
Hooligan!! You'll be telling us next about the fun of a "bump stock"!
My lad has a militarised .22 semi, a ridiculous thing, but fun. My old BA ruger knocks it into a cocked hat on accuracy mind...
Bloody hell....
Agree, I would swap my Ruger for a .17, but I don't like the crack. I suspect a .22 PCP on a ticket would be better, but I do want a proper round every now and then.
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- East Sussex
Bloody hell....
Agree, I would swap my Ruger for a .17, but I don't like the crack. I suspect a .22 PCP on a ticket would be better, but I do want a proper round every now and then.
I’ve got a 40ftlb rapid 2 and they ping like hell around the yard
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- Aberdeenshire
All I use mine for now is humane destruction. Even then I wonder every time I use it in close confinement within a shed if I'll hear the round that kills me. For me a .22 needs amazing backstops and plenty of private space around for me to be comfortable using it. But...I don't have large populations of bunnies to clear out and 22rf is truly the tool for that. I see their place in the armoury but hate the casual attitude to them that some folk display.
Can you alter the pressure on your Rapid...
Scholsey
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- Herefordshire
Shooting into silage pit faces, defo wouldnt want to shoot with anything other than a good solid (but not too solid) backstop behind them.
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- East Sussex
No. The older ones you could and I think it would be easy enough to modify. The problem is that it would create other variables that would affect the consistency of shot, it has a fast flow adapter for the air rather than a regulator as they have on lower power models.
haven't used it for years and considering sale at some point.
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- Cumbria
See if you can pick up an old 22 BSA Air Sporter, we've had one for 40 odd years, use it for shooting pigeons in sheds and barn.
You can still get parts for them.
You can still get parts for them.
2wheels
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- aberdeenshire
i had a bsa armatic semi-auto .22 50yrs ago . it was spot on for accuracy. the brno bolt action that followed it was only marginally better. the armatic aluminium bolt eventually wore out which led to jamming .
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- Montgomeryshire
That reminds me of a knackerman for the hunt kennels back in the Cotswolds. Like a lot of flesh wagons, his had an alloy body. To put calves down, he would lift them in through the side door, then shoot them with a pistol to the skull, whilst standing to one side of that open door, with one finger in his ear. The side of the alloy truck body was covered in dents from all the ricochets that bounced around inside it!
Scholsey
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- Herefordshire
.410 for that job, 12g for cows.