Applying Chicken muck pre Autumn drilling?? Yes or no??

[Farmer Jack]

Hi Guys

Are there any real advantages of applying chicken muck before drilling winter wheat?

Obviously theres the benefit of organic matter, but will the nitrogen still be available come spring?

Typical cost for application to us is around £15 tonne. I was thinking 2 tonne per acre.

Many thanks

 

[PSQ]

What would be a rough N.P.K analysis of the muck?

 

[cricketandcrops]

Yes, will do the world of good, a boost of nitrogen will help crop develop and go into winter especially if delayed drilling......any N taken up by the plant will still be in the plant come spring = bigger biomass so can cut N applications accordingly

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

Hi Guys

Are there any real advantages of applying chicken muck before drilling winter wheat?

Obviously theres the benefit of organic matter, but will the nitrogen still be available come spring?

Typical cost for application to us is around £15 tonne. I was thinking 2 tonne per acre.

Many thanks

I appreciate there may be practical limitations but there would be more advantage applying chicken muck to the growing crop in spring.

 

[Jerry]

We often spread digestate pre drilling in autumn. Crops come through winter very well in the back of it.

 

[cricketandcrops]

my understanding is if in NVZ need to incorporate poultry manure ASAP and within 24 hours, therefore cannot broadcast onto growing crop in spring

 

[Farmer Jack]

my understanding is if in NVZ need to incorporate poultry manure ASAP and within 24 hours, therefore cannot broadcast onto growing crop in spring

We would always lightly incorporate into soil straight after application to keep the neighbours happy and reduce smell. We’d probably upset a few if we were to top dress in spring.

It’s layer muck btw, we haven’t had it tested, but just going by what the rb09 recommends for nutrient value.

My concern is being in a fairly high rainfall area the nutrients will be washed away come spring, going by last winter!!

 

[Luke Cropwalker]

my understanding is if in NVZ need to incorporate poultry manure ASAP and within 24 hours, therefore cannot broadcast onto growing crop in spring

I don't recall that part of the NVZ regs, always thought that any organic manure could be spread onto a growing crop in spring, this certainly utilises readily available N better than any autumn application.

 

[teslacoils]

my understanding is if in NVZ need to incorporate poultry manure ASAP and within 24 hours, therefore cannot broadcast onto growing crop in spring

I may be out of date but I don't think there is a requirement to incorporate when applied to a growing arable crop / grass.

 

[DieselRob]

I may be out of date but I don't think there is a requirement to incorporate when applied to a growing arable crop / grass.

This is my understanding as well

I put broiler muck on ahead of 2nd wheat and it gives it a real boost to get through winter, often drilled 3 or 4 weeks later than 1st cereals they can come out the other side in as good as condition as first wheat

 

[cricketandcrops]

I thought those with high readily available N needed to be incorporated

 

[cricketandcrops]

My apologies, reading the wording it says “bare soil or stubble”

 

[DieselRob]

Was there someone who used to post on here from the Netherlands using the claydon system and they applied in the spring and then run through with a straw rake?

 

[The Arable Farmer]

I want to put some chicken muck on but struggling to get hold of it, has anyone got any or know who to get it from?

 

[DieselRob]

I want to put some chicken muck on but struggling to get hold of it, has anyone got any or know who to get it from?

Location....?

 

[clemmo]

Any thoughts on water rules and applying n to a crop with no n requirements?

 

[The Arable Farmer]

Location....?

Oxfordshire/Buckinghamshire

 

[SilliamWhale]

Chuck it on top in March if you can

 

[deleted user 837354]

I appreciate there may be practical limitations but there would be more advantage applying chicken muck to the growing crop in spring.

Do both!

 

[R J]

Oxfordshire/Buckinghamshire

Not sure if they operate quite as far as your area but you could try Gamber and they may be able to help