Are Travellers Gypsies?

[Hooby Farmer]

Tbf the most of them I've come across you you couldn't trust as far as you could throw them.

 

[George from SJM Planning]

I do a lot of work for travellers in terms of securing planning permission for their private sites and for every bad one there is half a dozen good ones.

Saying that, I've found a similar ratio with farmers I've dealt with!!!

I always working the basis of cash up front as they can be 'forgetful' once they have their bit of paper in hand!

 

[renewablejohn]

Please do not classify fairground operators in the same category. They have a travelling lifestyle but are prepared to work long hours in all weathers to support there families.

 

[honeyend]

Seen as my step father, who was a farmer was tax dodging, fiddling b******, I always say rats live in houses as well. I was a talking to a lovely, well spoken teenage girl at a bonfire party, the abuse she gets at school is appalling and the abuse my white 'middleclass' neighbour gives them for breathing is disgusting. I treat people as I find them, and the ones that live in settled communities just want to make a life for their kids like the rest of us.

 

[Rowland]

Gypsies travel! But traveling pikeys are scum along with the ones who have given up traveling and live around West Auckland

 

[michael N123]

I'm probably going to get a load of agro for saying this, but....

To be fair, not all the "travellers" are bad - it seems that there's a relatively high proportion that are. You don't hear much about the decent ones because they mostly get on with life & don't cause problems, whereas we obviously are aware of what the bad ones get up to & they tend to be the ones being very vocal about being oppressed.

We tend to judge the pikeys in much the same way that England is judged by the behaviour of our football hooligans or the young folks going drinking in Magaluff, but they only represent a small proportion of our society.

For me, Gypsies are those of typically Romany descent, Travellers are the more modern breed tending to have Irish accents & Pikeys are the scum...

I have no problem with any of them in this area we no them all by name and they all stop and talk in the yard

The annoying ones are the chavvy wannobe pikeys from Carlisle area with there shite dogs who drive/walk where ever they want (there proberly the types who’ll steal your quad) the gamekeepers don’t hold back if they get a phone call heard a story of a car full of lads being chased 20mile the other week

Maybe have some gates left open once every few months but round here no one rings the police if there’s a problem.. don’t no how some of you more southern people cope having to barricade your gateways ect

 

[roscoe erf]

We used to have a Romany family with the caravan and horses camp for about six weeks every year on the side of a back road near a farm where I worked in the early 80's. The one thing I always remember is every-time they left the only way you could tell they had ever been there was the grass had all been flattened off.

same with us

 

[Weasel]

Please do not classify fairground operators in the same category. They have a travelling lifestyle but are prepared to work long hours in all weathers to support there families.

They are all a bunch of junked up perverts!

 

[Landrover]

We used to have a gypsy lad come lambing every year when I was young, he was from a old gypsy family that lived in the nearest big town, a hard worker and good stockman, he used to disappear to France during the summer time don't know what he went to do ! His father was well respected, a proper gentleman from what I can remember, a horse trader surprisingly ! I remember speaking to a policeman friend of mine and he told me that if there was ever any problems involving the local travelling community the Sgt would speak to this chap and there would be no more problems after that ! I have no idea weather they were Romany or Irish travellers but when this old chap was about they behaved themselves ! Different now tho !

 

[CFMF]

We used to have a family of gypsies to hoe mangolds etc.They all lived in a lovely painted van & had a large black horse which got loose one day,it has a good set of shoes but the 7year old who fetched it had none,My horrified mother found a pair of my shoes for the child.Mother also gave them milk & eggs.When they left the father wanted to pay for the shoes & for the milk & eggs. When Mother refused to take the money he said he could not come back next year as he always paid his way.

 

[Greythundercloudys]

I've had a traveller paint my sheds a few times and he seams a nice man, does a good job, then cash in hand at the end. There's good and bad in every walk of life.

 

[MF 168]

I detest seeing them coming into the place here. I have dealt with ones with a UK accent although thats rare as most are our own scummy dirt. If you let them in at all there like flies to a fresh shite and you'll be well annoyed with them calling. I'm always pleasant to them at first but if their not understanding me I usually just say "look lads, I won't waste your time and by jaysus ye won't waste mine. The answers no". Only once did I ever tell a persistent hoor that I was going indoors and he'd better be gone when I came back out. I never did say what I went in for but he went out at about 60 mph whatever spooked him .

 

[devonbrion1998]

There's more goodness in a fag butt, yeh there great people till they nick ur quad, timber processor, trailer battery off the tractor or electric fence, driving around looking over the hedges and in the yard with those little Rodent eyes, can't stand em.

 

[Agriimark]

There's more goodness in a fag butt, yeh there great people till they nick ur quad, timber processor, trailer battery off the tractor or electric fence, driving around looking over the hedges and in the yard with those little Rodent eyes, can't stand em.

I agree to a certain extent but from past knowledge most of what you have said is mainly by "normal" house living people from average backgrounds just being "greedy"

 

[Paddington]

If you think their sites are bad here with a dozen caravans and a pile of scrap metal in the corner, at least you can drive past in safety. In Slovakia a few years ago some of our party got lost in their hire car and ended up driving into a Roma camp. They said it was like a scene from Mad Max with dozens of people converging on the car throwing stones I asked if they'd seen any horses there but they were too busy finding reverse and wondering how to explain the damage to the hire company.

 

[CornishTone]

Used to see a Gypsy with a hose and cart quite regularly back home years ago. Never any problem, would make clothes pegs and the like to sell on the road side. Was a pleasure to see them to be honest.

Dad has had a “settled” Gypsy come and paint his sheds for as long as I can remember. Hell of a nice chap!

Then there are the... call them what you will; pikies, travellers etc etc. Cornwall Council have given up evicting them from Council property, presumably because of the cost and hassle, and now spend hundreds of thousands of pounds building them permanent sites so they can thieve their way round a parish in comfort before moving on and leaving he Council to clear up the sh1t they leave behind! They built one such site just down the road from home on a Council farm with 6 or 7 pitches. Now they’re expanding it because the travellers want more pitches as well as toilets and showers! I believe the expansion is costing c£300,000 but they can’t afford to fill in the pot holes or keep mental health facilities open in the county!

It’s no wonder people don’t like them!

 

[Hilly]

The good the bad the ugly in all parts of society, i have a deal with a few of them now and again and they are great better than alot of farmers to deal with , obviously they aint all good.

 

[Yale]

Used to see a Gypsy with a hose and cart quite regularly back home years ago. Never any problem, would make clothes pegs and the like to sell on the road side. Was a pleasure to see them to be honest.

Dad has had a “settled” Gypsy come and paint his sheds for as long as I can remember. Hell of a nice chap!

Then there are the... call them what you will; pikies, travellers etc etc. Cornwall Council have given up evicting them from Council property, presumably because of the cost and hassle, and now spend hundreds of thousands of pounds building them permanent sites so they can thieve their way round a parish in comfort before moving on and leaving he Council to clear up the sh1t they leave behind! They built one such site just down the road from home on a Council farm with 6 or 7 pitches. Now they’re expanding it because the travellers want more pitches as well as toilets and showers! I believe the expansion is costing c£300,000 but they can’t afford to fill in the pot holes or keep mental health facilities open in the county!

It’s no wonder people don’t like them!

Don’t suppose you’ll see any where you are now.

 

[egbert]

It's muddled local to me.
We've dealt with a few without issue over the years - you need to be awake, but the deals have been straight forward enough.
Others I've turned away outright on shifty mannerisms or crooked business pitch.

There's a lot of a former Romany family, who are now very evidently settled.
Some seem to be hard working and relatively straight. although planning regulations don't seem to apply to them, which is hardly endearing.
Sadly, others of the same name are in and out of nick for thieving, including lately a spree involving gear off several pals of mine.
How are we to tell the difference?...I don't know.
Statistically, the incidence of crime within just that group is...er....troubling. there is clearly a cultural difference in morals.

Then there's those who appear seasonally, both on spreading semi-legitimate camps and elsewhere, including some with Irish accents.
'No I don't want to buy a lookalikie huskqy chainsaw, or whatever it is you're flogging, and get your mates nose out of that shed'
They would appear, within their overall population, be crooked as a cultural trait, and their habits cost everyone else shed loads to sort out.
If they can't walk away from that lifestyle, i'd happily see them dealt with in such a way that they wouldn't trouble decent people any more.

I'm very sorry for those who are prepared to be honest, and show respect for 'settled' folk. The others can only damage their position in society.
If I had that background, but was prepared to be straight, I think I'd try and distance myself from it. and that must be difficult to contemplate.

 

[egbert]

Don’t suppose you’ll see any where you are now.

I thought the antipodes was a holiday destination of choice for some travelling families now.
A sort of 'working overseas' thing. (reports are, er, 'not glowing')