Australian Carbon Credits Scheme

[unlacedgecko]

'We'd never touch it if we knew': Farmer locked in carbon credit scheme backs inquiry into 'rort'

A grazier locked in a 25-year carbon farming project says allegations Australia's carbon credit scheme is a rort are a "wake-up call the industry desperately needs".

www.abc.net.au

Looks like it's not going too well for the landowners down there. Let this be a lesson to all.

 

[Ffermer Bach]

Carbon credits is nothing about global warming, it's all about greenwashing polluting industries, so they can carry on as normal, while persuading the gullible that they are doing their bit, allowing guilt free indulgence.

 

[Formatted]

I don't really understand what he's saying, he signed up for a scheme he can't deliver on because the climates isn't right and now he's tied in, unable to restock nor deliver on the scheme?

 

[unlacedgecko]

I don't really understand what he's saying, he signed up for a scheme he can't deliver on because the climates isn't right and now he's tied in, unable to restock nor deliver on the scheme?

That's how I read it.

 

[Hilly]

Carbon credits is nothing about global warming, it's all about greenwashing polluting industries, so they can carry on as normal, while persuading the gullible that they are doing their bit, allowing guilt free indulgence.

Other wise known in plain english as FRAUD .

 

[ajd132]

25 year tree planting carbon schemes in the uk are mad, when you can grow food and sequester carbon at the same time

 

[unlacedgecko]

25 year tree planting carbon schemes in the uk are mad, when you can grow food and sequester carbon at the same time

And the best way to do that is well managed ruminant grazing.

 

[Suffolk Serf]

25 year tree planting carbon schemes in the uk are mad, when you can grow food and sequester carbon at the same time

200ha being readied for planting with trees for carbon capture very near me, absolutely shocking.

 

[ajd132]

200ha being readied for planting with trees for carbon capture very near me, absolutely shocking.

I have no issue with selling carbon sequestration, I’m doing it on a yearly basis through crops and farming system. But planting trees for carbon is such a simplistic waste of time.

 

[onesiedale]

I don't really understand what he's saying, he signed up for a scheme he can't deliver on because the climates isn't right and now he's tied in, unable to restock nor deliver on the scheme?

as I read it , things looked great for a while following de-stocking , but have now turned the other way, with the future looking bleak for carbon sequestration without stock .
The lesson there is surely not to de-stock but to allow farmers to stock the land appropriately in order to achieve the best outcome for everyone.

Oh, and the other lesson to the fraudsters' clients is to simply cut down on burning fossil fuels. It's fossil fuels that are heating the planet, not livestock.

 

[glasshouse]

200ha being readied for planting with trees for carbon capture very near me, absolutely shocking.

Plough them in

 

[glasshouse]

The aussies planted loads of trees fifteen yr ago on cropping land for carbon
All got ripped out again

 

[unlacedgecko]

Plough them in

Landowner will be making far too much in subsidies to entertain that.

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

The aussies planted loads of trees fifteen yr ago on cropping land for carbon
All got ripped out again

No. A lot of farms were bought up in Victoria's high rainfall zone in the south west for planting blue gums. Was for wood chip production, not for carbon . Was also a dodgy managed investment scheme.. Was also on grazing land , not cropping country. Couldn't return there promised returns to investors and went belly up. Farms sold off for less than purchase price in most cases.

 

[Exfarmer]

200ha being readied for planting with trees for carbon capture very near me, absolutely shocking.

Is that using deer fencing down the road from me, just seen today?

 

[Suffolk Serf]

Is that using deer fencing down the road from me, just seen today?

Yes, exactly that. Planting starts in May apparently.

 

[glasshouse]

Landowner will be making far too much in subsidies to entertain that.

Landowner wont have the option

 

[hendrebc]

Carbon credits are a trap. Lure you in with promises of big money and then when it doesn't work your left holding the can when their over optimistic projections can't be achieved.
The farmer in the article is lucky he isn't paying for the difference for the carbon that isn't there. He still might have to I suppose as his land degrades and what has already been paid out for starts disappearing.

 

[Farmer Roy]

The aussies planted loads of trees fifteen yr ago on cropping land for carbon
All got ripped out again

I don’t think so . . .
Edit - see Cows post above

 

[Exfarmer]

Yes, exactly that. Planting starts in May apparently.

You cant plant trees in May! Not if you are half sharp, but I suppose they have plenty of irrigation!